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Need your help: SS Gruppe West tinnie

Article about: Hello Gentleman, I am new to the group and I'm a novice collector/buyer. I have a very interesting shield that is in such good condition it makes me think it may be a reproduction. I tried t

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    Default Need your help: SS Gruppe West tinnie

    Hello Gentleman,
    I am new to the group and I'm a novice collector/buyer. I have a very interesting shield that is in such good condition it makes me think it may be a reproduction. I tried to search for information on this item, but could not find anything on it, or another one online like it. Please take a look at the shield and give me your opinion if it is real, or a reproduction, and any information you could give me about it would also be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your feedback.

    Respectfully,
    Dan W.
    Senior Chief Petty Officer
    USN Retired

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    Hi Dan, welcome to the forum. I have found the same tinny for sale at this dealer's site.

    German Third Reich Tinnies (1923-1934)

    He has a terrible reputation for selling fakes, and I have a feeling your example is also bad. The patina looks forced and artificial to me. I am not sure if this type even existed in the period or not. There are specialists here that will be able to say with certainty one way or the other I am sure.

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    The coffin shaped pin plate is a dead give away to this being bad, sorry.

    Tom

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    Welcome to the forum. Dont give Snyder any of your money ever.

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    It is an original design ϟϟ Aufmarsch Abschitt X1 Gruppe West Frankfurt, however the one that is shown i don't think is original. I have seen and handled these a few times over the years, and careful scrutiny is always required, apart from an incorrect pin configuration, the eyes on the skull are much wider than the ones i have seen, it almost looks as if it's in shock! As with anything ϟϟ caveat emptor always be ϟuϟpicious

    I would be comfortable with this example
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    Thank you for your feedback.

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    Thank you Tom.

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    Thanks John, I appreciate the photo example.

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    Yeah, for sure a no go. Pass

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