Sepp Dietrich's cap eagle...

**ObKrieger** · 10-13-2011, 03:07 AM

Very interesting stuff, guys.

At what level, do you suppose, would these kinds of alterations of a uniform typically be overlooked? Obviously an EM/NCO would have a much harder time pulling that off than Sepp Dietrich.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 10-13-2011 03:07 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 10-13-2011, 03:27 AM

Do read the extracts from Uniformenmarkt in the Muetzenfabrik thread, as well as the SS Befehlsblaetter I appended elsewhere.
The reality is much different from the misinterpretation worked by those ignorant of the past as concerns this regalia.
Dietrich was only acting like many, many, many others in the past who flaunted regulations.

**KMNZ** · 10-13-2011, 03:28 AM

and it is these kinds of irregularities that are in pain in the collectos backside .... it happened more then we would think...

**BOB COLEMAN** · 10-13-2011, 04:56 AM

It was not unusual to find Heer eagles worn on caps but also as sleeve eagles.

An example of an Erel cap with hand embroidered Heer eagle.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 10-13-2011, 04:58 AM

by BOB COLEMAN

It was not unusual to find Heer eagles worn on caps but also as sleeve eagles.

An example of an Erel cap with hand embroidered Heer eagle.

Bravo, we have not seen this cap for awhile. A very nice piece with character. Here are some army caps with such flamboyant Hoheitszeichen.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 10-13-2011, 05:01 AM

Mollo writes at length about the intrusion of military fashion into the SS at arms, to say nothing of Himmler's speeches in their number, in which he seeks to distinguish the SS from other organizations, be they the SA or the regular army.
It is a well known and well researched theme.

**BOB COLEMAN** · 10-13-2011, 05:01 AM

A mantel of a Totenkopf Sturmfuhrer with Heer sleeve eagle.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 10-13-2011, 05:02 AM

by KMNZ

and it is these kinds of irregularities that are in pain in the collectos backside .... it happened more then we would think...

The reality of our interest is endlessly more complex than some of the terrible simplifier and internet soap box tyrants would have us believe. Thanks to Bob Coleman for his aid here from his wonderful collection. Bob Coleman along with a tiny number of others have done much to resist the tyranny of such internet savants and snake oil salespersons and their horrid effects on our capacity to learn more and do so without dreading opening our emails.

**KMNZ** · 10-13-2011, 05:29 AM

ok so the more advanced collector knows better, which leaves thousands of beginning collectors wondering at such irregularities .... yes we have some advanced collectors willing to help, but you hey when ya see a SS cap with heer eagle, first thing that comes to mind is replaced eagle .... which it might not have been...

**BOB COLEMAN** · 10-13-2011, 06:09 AM

by KMNZ

ok so the more advanced collector knows better, which leaves thousands of beginning collectors wondering at such irregularities .... yes we have some advanced collectors willing to help, but you hey when ya see a SS cap with heer eagle, first thing that comes to mind is replaced eagle .... which it might not have been...

At least you know that such things did exist. One becomes advanced by studying and learning from fellow collectors for many years. I have also seen photographic evidence of Heer and political eagles worn by other ranks SS men on feldmutze.