Become our sponsor and display your banner here
Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 234567 LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 61

Something odd about all these SS Feldmuetzen

Article about: Thanks to my colleagues for the RZM tag survey. The problem with all of this is really quite simple. Most people have never handled real material, and in this instance, a goodly chunk of rea

  1. #51

    Default Re: Something odd about all these SS Feldmuetzen

    Quote by BenVK View Post
    That's right, white or black but the top one has only one ring around the runes. Neither has "Nr." before the "A" either which is something quite consistent on other tags.

    However, I've now noticed something even more strange and gives me reason to doubt these tags even more.

    Look at these 3 again. Two are marked by the same number hersteller 61 but in different font and ink and the RZM Nr. also different. No big deal I guess, different production run, different ink stamp. But why is the other hersteller which I can't make out the numbers (1415?) stamped with the exact same blue inkstamp?
    ================================================== ====

    Let me add some interesting info I think... First of all sorry for my bad english...

    1- did you ever noticed that the black "paint/ink" on original RZM tags is water soluble... ? And fades if one rubs with a wet finger...
    (I have also noticed that this is not necessarily the case on ALL RZM tags).

    2- It's easely possible that the tag wich is very often in contact with sweat or wet hair or other moisture, can be worn out by this constant friction...

    3- "1415" is not a maker number, but more a registration number of the eastern country theatre it comes from (Poland if I remember well), have a close look on the tag and you can see the shadow of the former maker code.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	calo52.JPG 
Views:	84 
Size:	115.4 KB 
ID:	480752

    and an other pic of the worn out white size stampe...

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	calo4.JPG 
Views:	87 
Size:	70.6 KB 
ID:	480761

    4- This "61" maker tags => serial numler : "38516" are endeed fakes no doubts, I had already pointed it out a year ago in the here "NON GRATTA" Brown forum... Finding 2 identical RZM tags on 2 different side caps (a "green" SS-VT and a black one) the same serial number...

    Odd... - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	copie SS-VT (1)2.JPG 
Views:	86 
Size:	94.8 KB 
ID:	480760Click image for larger version. 

Name:	copie M34-SS (4).jpg 
Views:	89 
Size:	45.9 KB 
ID:	480759

    They are also artificially worn out... In fact are the worn out areas print defects...
    Last edited by Pascal BERNHARD; 03-09-2013 at 05:25 PM.

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    P
    Many
     

  3. #52

    Default Re: Something odd about all these SS Feldmuetzen

    More..

    here with 2 RZM tags on 2 different visors, both never issued and nevertheless... one is darker than the second...

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	SS_INT3.JPG 
Views:	105 
Size:	62.1 KB 
ID:	480763Click image for larger version. 

Name:	005.jpg 
Views:	87 
Size:	215.8 KB 
ID:	480762

    Therefore it also depends on the amount of ink used at the time of printing the RZM tag...

  4. #53

    Default Re: Something odd about all these SS Feldmuetzen

    Saw the difference early on.White runes in black and visa-versa.

  5. #54

    Default

    Quote by Pascal BERNHARD View Post
    More..

    here with 2 RZM tags on 2 different visors, both never issued and nevertheless... one is darker than the second...

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	SS_INT3.JPG 
Views:	105 
Size:	62.1 KB 
ID:	480763Click image for larger version. 

Name:	005.jpg 
Views:	87 
Size:	215.8 KB 
ID:	480762

    Therefore it also depends on the amount of ink used at the time of printing the RZM tag...
    And this example well illustrates the range of the possible in fact versus the dogmatic insistence by some for a kind of standardization that was utterly alien in the epoch and actually alien to the culture of real German uniforms for centuries. The dogmatism of the present says more about those who embrace it, i.e. their own insecurity and intellectual weakness in the face of the ambiguous evidence, versus the richness of what actually happened, and its unrelenting demand on us to figure it all out with reinforced knowledge. If you want a handy check list with ten lines as the ultimate weapon to defeat the faker, then go collect space race era lunch boxes.
    damit, basta.

  6. #55
    ?

    Default

    Standardization can be so boring, it is the divergent pieces that catch me eye.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	image.jpg 
Views:	72 
Size:	93.5 KB 
ID:	650509

    CMH

  7. #56

    Default

    Bravo.
    damit, basta.

  8. #57

    Default

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	163so10-5.jpg 
Views:	16 
Size:	112.7 KB 
ID:	954678Click image for larger version. 

Name:	163SO10-2A.jpg 
Views:	18 
Size:	100.4 KB 
ID:	954679Something I am not sure about.
    damit, basta.

  9. #58
    ?

    Default

    It seems like the tag missed it's talc-kaoline base, and just painted over it. When I first saw it, I got doubts, but I'am still in doubts and can't answer, just based on the pictures. And also the Tuchmuetze tag on the Feldmuetze
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

  10. #59

    Default

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CWG205-S-O2-O.jpg 
Views:	15 
Size:	198.2 KB 
ID:	954738Thanks. I have seen the Tuchmuetze tag in these Feldmuetzen before. This cap is just far too good to be true, but I am surely not an expert
    in such caps. I owned several of the black and brown ones in the early 1970s, and own a normal one now from the Stadnicki collection.
    This appeared in a controversial place, and I wonder about it.

    Here is another which was Beaver's and would like to own like it.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CWG205-Z-O1-O.jpg 
Views:	16 
Size:	178.1 KB 
ID:	954739  
    damit, basta.

  11. #60

    Default

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	163so10-5.jpg 
Views:	13 
Size:	112.7 KB 
ID:	954740Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CWG205-S-O2-O.jpg 
Views:	10 
Size:	198.2 KB 
ID:	954741Zum Beispiel

    The top is the "officer version" and the bottom is ex Beaver and on auction now.

    I am comfortable with the bottom, but will leave the top example to you.

    Happy hats.
    damit, basta.

Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 234567 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •