Just a note to clarify HPL's third point about the date of the use of runes on the cuff band.
I think the 1939 date is probably from one of those orders retrospectively clarifying regulations, (although I can't say that I know the order offhand).
A letter from the Head of the Verwaltungsamt-SS in August 1938 asks for clarification as to whether the cufftitles for the Allgemeine-SS should use the runic 'SS' that the SS-VT was using. A reply in September from the Fuehrungsamt says that Himmler determined the runics were indeed to be used on Allgemeine-SS bands.
As the schools were part of the SS-VT these documents would indicate that the titles with runic 'SS" were manufactured prior to August 1938.
12-17-2014 06:39 PM
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Apropos the omnibus image above with the many cuff titles, David Delich writes us all as follows.
".....I have issues with several of the badges in the latest
thread re: the "SS-Schule Tolz" cuff title. First of all,
the most glaring repro in the batch is the BFC title
shown in the first attachment.
In Vol. 2 of Bender's Foreign Legions of the Third
Reich, are a few pages that discuss the British Free
Corps. Shown on one page is a hand drawing of a
facsimile of a British Free Corps cuff title (1st attachment)
with several reproduction BFC badges, eg., Union Jack
sleeve shield, a three lion collar patch, and a cuff title.
When Roger was writing this section of his 4th volume,
I offered to provide an artistic concept of what a BFC
cuff title might look like. Most letters look as most do
on any cuff titles with Gothic style lettering except for the
"B" and the "F", which were creations of my own. In
short, this title is only a representation, as a genuine BFC
cuff title design is yet unknown. These badges shown were
created for Adrian Weale's film documentary on the BFC,
and were of a design not exactly as the originals.
I agree with HPL2008' s comment in that there was no
such title ever created as "SS Fuhrerschule Tolz" -- a comment
I would have included in my first response to this thread,
but felt a curt "it's bad" would have sufficed.
Also, in the array of cuff titles shown, there are many
incorrectly-shaped letters in the "SS-Schule Braunschweig"
"Danmark", "Charlemagne", "SS-Hauptamt", and
No more authoritative voice can be found on these matters.
Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 12-17-2014 at 10:35 PM.
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