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Ss great coat m.36

Article about: hello I would like to get my fellow collectors opinion on this Ss tunic, to me it looks good but I haven't seen to many early Ss greatcoats. Buttons are different but all of them are from 19

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    I wish these women were in my class.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	865918Since no one likes my picture of Russian cadets, here is the salient image from the legendary vol. III of Mollo on the SSVT.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	865926Viz:
    damit, basta.

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ID:	865928The salient excerpt from the even more legendary vol. VI of Mollo

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    damit basta.
    damit, basta.

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    Thank you so much for your help and dokumentation fb. I have searched alot online and i have reached the conclusion that Ss do have French cuffs also.

    But as for the Wehrmacht they always have French cuffs so how could this be a wh one. I also visited Wehrmacht awards forum, but sadly I found no photos of a m36 great coat, but I did see some with same type of collar stitching underneath.

    I believe that the great coat is not wh and not repro, but what then if not Ss?

    Hopefully someone will in time share photos of a m36 Ss great coat.

    Again FB thank you so much for your time and help

    Regards Thomas

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    And nice cadets😊

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    Here some greatcoat-figures to compare from old official documentation:

    First Allgemeine SS from a plate from the Reichszeugmeisterei (RZM) from mid-1935 about NSDAP uniforms,
    also shown the reverse. Note the quite long cuffs:

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    Allgemeine-SS 1938 from a big plate from with NSDAP-uniforms "Symbole, Uniformen etc. der Gliederungen der NSDAP"
    and from the 1938 "Herstellungsvorschriften" (manufacturing-regulation):

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    From the same 1938-plate, Marine-SA:

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    From a 1936 uniform-plate from TeNo "Dienstkleidung der Technischen Nothilfe":

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    From an August 1940 uniform-plate for the Waffen-SS ("Uniformen der Waffen-SS"):

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    From a uniform-plate for the army, "Die Uniform des deutschen Heeres" from August 1936:

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    Look at the flaps for the pockets and compare with post 1

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    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Attachment 865897I like this picture better. These charming people have cuffs, too, and so much more than a bunch of old racists.
    Let me be the first to volunteer to be cuffed by the charming subjects of this image. The rest of you, RUN! I'll hold them off here as long as I can...

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    Wilhelm you are right about the flaps! Anyway it looks like They have the same problem at wehrmacht Awards: greatcoat/mantel opinions - Page 3 - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums It seems there are more examples than mine, and They could be reworked for germany.

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    Quote by Wilhelm Saris View Post
    Here some greatcoat-figures to compare from old official documentation:

    First Allgemeine SS from a plate from the Reichszeugmeisterei (RZM) from mid-1935 about NSDAP uniforms,
    also shown the reverse. Note the quite long cuffs:

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    Allgemeine-SS 1938 from a big plate from with NSDAP-uniforms "Symbole, Uniformen etc. der Gliederungen der NSDAP"
    and from the 1938 "Herstellungsvorschriften" (manufacturing-regulation):

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    From the same 1938-plate, Marine-SA:

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    From a 1936 uniform-plate from TeNo "Dienstkleidung der Technischen Nothilfe":

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    From an August 1940 uniform-plate for the Waffen-SS ("Uniformen der Waffen-SS"):

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    From a uniform-plate for the army, "Die Uniform des deutschen Heeres" from August 1936:

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    Look at the flaps for the pockets and compare with post 1

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    Thanks, as ever, to Wim for his wonderful sources that eclipse all others. Let no doubt adhere to the proposition of French cuffs in the SS.
    damit, basta.

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