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SS Grouping from recent auction

Article about: I'm really shocked this grouping hasn't been discussed here. I personally like all the items and believe they're all original and SS. That said, I do have some concerns, such as did this gro

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    I'm really shocked this grouping hasn't been discussed here. I personally like all the items and believe they're all original and SS. That said, I do have some concerns, such as did this grouping really belong to one individual?
    I also think this tunic deserves further discussion...all opinions welcomed of course.
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    If you're registered you can view the items here;
    https://www.butschek-antiques.com/in...f7017a9&lang=1
    Another discussion on the above grouping;
    SS uniform grouping for review - Page 5 - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

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    The tunic is certainly not SS with that black collar. It is an enlisted ranks tunic which is evidenced by the course material. Odd mixture of NCO and officer's caps. Possibly a constructed group but the tunic does not match a pattern of any German one I know of.
    BOB

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    Quote by BOB COLEMAN View Post
    The tunic is certainly not SS with that black collar. It is an enlisted ranks tunic which is evidenced by the course material. Odd mixture of NCO and officer's caps. Possibly a constructed group but the tunic does not match a pattern of any German one I know of.
    Bob, well said, my feelings are the same.........
    jim

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    Quote by jimtoncar View Post
    Bob, well said, my feelings are the same.........
    jim
    Thanks Jim. A very odd grouping of stuff.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    The collar is actually a dark green, as seen most clearly in the 4th image.

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    The whole grouping seemed a little odd.With the visors they just didnt seem right, i almost bid but something stopped me..what was everyones opinions on the visors,strange in such a well kept group that one misses the eagle and the other the skull ..just my less knowledgeable thoughts,will wait for Bob, FB, Stonemints experience etc

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    The black visor was upgraded to an officer. He did serve in the Allgemeine SS "early" on but considering his age it's hard to believe he reached such a rank. The tunic above is, of course, a private purchase example and I believe the collar isn't black, but rather a very dark green. This would make more sense. If it's not a SS tunic, what would it be? As for the inner material it could be explained by the temperature of were he was or personal preference. Others such as Robert and John seem to like it, according to the thread on WAF, but I must agree with Bob's point, the construction is somewhat strange.

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    It could easily have been from different individuals, its a very long time since the war. God knows how many hands it has been thru until it was sold at Seņor Butcheks auction.

    My 2pesos worth
    Collect ROA, Cossack, Schuma and other WW2 Volunteer militaria.

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    A more telling photo enhanced of the true color of the left collar, in the background of course.
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    Has any of you actually examined these things in person?
    damit, basta.

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