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SS Heimwehr Danzig in Canadian Captivity

Article about: Bill Petz posted this pic showing a member of the SS Heimwehr Danzig in captivity in Ottawa Canada (pic is presumably taken during the war, given that they are all wearing the national eagle

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    Bill Petz posted this pic showing a member of the SS Heimwehr Danzig in captivity in Ottawa Canada (pic is presumably taken during the war, given that they are all wearing the national eagle).

    The H-D was dissolved at the end of the Polish campaign, so how would this TV member have been captured wearing it?

    (Further, this is the only pic I am aware of right now showing a full SS uniform being worn on the North American continent.)
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    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Definately a HD cuff:
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    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Well, the SS-Heimwehr Danzig was absorbed into the Totenkopf-Division after the end of the Polish Campaign. The Totenkopf-Divison did only receive its divisional cuff title "Totenkopf" in September 1942. (The one with the "death's head" emblem was a carryover from the "Oberbayern" standarte and not the first pattern cuff title for the SSTK.)
    Within the Waffen-SS, it was common practice (and eventually officially authorized) to continue wearing one's old cuff title when transferred to a unit that did not have one of its own. So, I would say that this is what we see here: A former Heimwehr Danzig member serving in the Totenkopf-Division who was taken captive at some point prior to the autumn of 1942.
    Nice image, by the way; thanks for sharing!

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    Well, the SS-Heimwehr Danzig was absorbed into the Totenkopf-Division after the end of the Polish Campaign. The Totenkopf-Divison did only receive its divisional cuff title "Totenkopf" in September 1942. (The one with the "death's head" emblem was a carryover from the "Oberbayern" standarte and not the first pattern cuff title for the SSTK.)
    Within the Waffen-SS, it was common practice (and eventually officially authorized) to continue wearing one's old cuff title when transferred to a unit that did not have one of its own. So, I would say that this is what we see here: A former Heimwehr Danzig member serving in the Totenkopf-Division who was taken captive at some point prior to the autumn of 1942.
    Nice image, by the way; thanks for sharing!
    Very good info.
    thank you for that.

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    Very interesting photo , although all the thousands of wartime photos taken of Totenkopf in the field i've never seen one showing a Heimwehr Danzig cuff title in wear before.
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

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    Quote by HPL2008 View Post
    Well, the SS-Heimwehr Danzig was absorbed into the Totenkopf-Division after the end of the Polish Campaign. The Totenkopf-Divison did only receive its divisional cuff title "Totenkopf" in September 1942. (The one with the "death's head" emblem was a carryover from the "Oberbayern" standarte and not the first pattern cuff title for the SSTK.)
    Within the Waffen-SS, it was common practice (and eventually officially authorized) to continue wearing one's old cuff title when transferred to a unit that did not have one of its own. So, I would say that this is what we see here: A former Heimwehr Danzig member serving in the Totenkopf-Division who was taken captive at some point prior to the autumn of 1942.
    Nice image, by the way; thanks for sharing!
    This analysis is quite sound. Too bad you do not own said uniform.

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    Wow that is cool! I plan on going to the German war grave in Battle Creek, MI this year for German memorial day.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    This analysis is quite sound. Too bad you do not own said uniform.
    I repeat what I said years ago.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    I repeat what I said years ago.
    Come to think of it, I posted my thoughts on the photograph half a decade ago. A bit scary how time flies...

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    Quote by HPL2008 View Post
    Come to think of it, I posted my thoughts on the photograph half a decade ago. A bit scary how time flies...
    How true, dear Andreas. Merry Christmas to you and yours. We are the richer that you have toiled in these vineyards all this time and I thank you for it.

    The machine causes these old threads to re appear, and there is some merit to revisit an old issue with new insights.

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