Real ones are a little longer than 8.49 cm./ little longer than 3.5 in". The fake ones are obviously too long, but there are more than one type fake out there.
Let me put it another way, if some one has a real tk ribbon bar they want to get rid of, I will pay in the thousands for it like I have for others. I am not soliciting, I am trying to point out some things when possible should be protected from counterfeiters & fakers, for every collectors bennifit and protection.
Counterfeters sure don't want to make identifiable mistakes on the money they print, and they sure don't want to make any on the TR stuff either.
Replica makers, is a different story, they are not easily passed off as real, like the counterfeiters and fakers item can.
Neither of these types buy the items anyway so are not worried what goes on the market, and they all know their own handi work.
This is an authentic Mess Dress tuxedo badge.
There is not any need to post the reverse. I, and Dick, are available to authenticate an original, should someone need help.
I am seeking Golden Party Badge # 77578, Luftwaffe blue summerweight flight pants, used Geschwader Immelmann officer's cuff title.
Another way to put it, anyone can show us theirs, but we won't show you ours")
While original and ultra rare, they are not the best peice of design work undertaken for the SS.
Dick indicated he had more than one. Maybe he will cut one of us a deal?