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SS regalia market croaks again.

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ID:	918268Some one hundred and sixty nine persons have read this thread, some of whom, apparently, do not share my sense of satire about the stories, myths, legends and gun show old wives' tales told about SS regalia.

    May I note the following list of negations in this connection:

    1. I am not a militaria dealer.
    1.1 I am not the boy on the burning deck, nor am I being crucified on a golden cross.
    1.2 I do not embrace populism in politics and I do not endorse the polarized politics in my native country and in Europe.
    2. I am not a globally empowered banker.
    3. I am not a banker with the US Federal Reserve.
    4. I am not a speculator in real estate, nor do I offer foolish and criminal loans to people who cannot afford real estate.
    5. I am not an economist, nor an expert in the biotope of antiquities and such rare items as cultural treasures, graphic arts, musical manuscripts, and contents of
    plundered cloisters etc.
    6. I do not bear responsibility for what happens at high end military shows in CONUS, which I do not visit.
    7. I do not bear responsibility for the epochal changes in western industrial democracies and their work forces since, more or less, the onset of the first oil crisis
    and the stagflation of my storied youth, i.e. the late 1960s and the early 1970s.
    8.) I do not understand the habits of thought or even world view of many people who read what I write, and I cannot be held responsible in any way if many
    people attracted to the collection of SS regalia apparently respond with written outbursts that go well beyond good manners and decorum. Freudian projection and burden shifting are typical psychological crutches of many here, and their frequency does not enable these phenomena to accord with the truth.
    9.) I do not speculate in this material for financial profit, though I, at least, hope to recoup my money, but maybe I won't . It is not the focus of why I do this.
    10.) I do not endorse those people or the activities of those people who treat these items solely as a speculative commodity void of any intrinsic historical and cultural
    importantance.
    11.) In accordance with the rules of this site, I eschew the political goals of national socialism, fascism, and other doctrines of organized political violence
    as a threat to life and limb and to the peace, prosperity and security which we have no right to take for granted, any longer.
    12.) I condemn persons who veil their neo Nazi agenda and revisionist political goals with leading, snickering posts and indirect attempts to call into question
    the politically neutral work of the persons who uphold this site. Such persons deserve very harsh treatment and I do my level best to see that they get it, and
    three bags full.

    A series of theses of a positive nature.

    1.) I am a professional historian and have made decades of effort to attain and retain this role.
    2.) I embrace the aims and methods of advanced study and see my collection and other solid collections as useful and important for historical scholarship. I have a large professional library, and my collection is an adjunct to this resource, and I use it for my work. This site has been an adjunct to this work, not the least for me to understand how my own conventional class room differs from this digital seminar. It surely does.
    3.) I affirm that the cultural history of war and its aesthetic dimension are important for public inquiry and analysis.
    4.) SS regalia is valuable because of its connection to central events of modern history and, despite its violent and more or less repugnant nature,
    it should and must be preserved for purposes of historical-political education, especially by young persons who are easily attracted to the symbols of national socialism amid a period polarizing politics and crisis. Real human beings did all these things, and the remnants of their lives make this point abundantly clear.
    5.) I support this website as the very best place to examine this material and am happy that others share here their knowledge and their joy learning.
    6.) Humor and satire are very often the best remedy to the cultural pessimism, Malthusian gloom, and otherwise beggar-thy-neighbor syndrome and "trope" that often is dominant in the digital realm.
    7.) Humankind has survived for centuries, despite predictions of impending doom, and young people alive today probably have better prospects than they know, despite all the manifest misery and suffering one does, indeed, see and which I deplore.
    8. ) I take great pleasure in other people learning, and I hope that we have enabled others to understand complicated facts, debate complex issues, and expand the circle of people who can collect and preserve these items.
    9.) Since I started my diatribe here in 2008, I have seen several people collect with great success and I applaud their progress and hope that they find things that will interest
    all of us and from which we can learn more.
    9.1. Sometimes they find nice things, tire of them, and then sell them to me, which is very pleasant as I can help them and my collection has grown.

    Happy new year and, once more, my thanks to our alert moderators for turfing out such personages who try to destroy this site.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 12-29-2015 at 05:09 AM.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	918271Certain persons who are deploring everything around them by the minute might, instead, deepen themselves not just in the ripping yarns of your 08/15 SS "Totenkopf" Ivan slayer, but also seek to understand what these cartoons I have enclosed might mean.

    PS of this man, who took more than a page from Bryan's book. Click image for larger version. 

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    I ask my European friends to tolerate some examples from US modern history, of two persons probably totally unknown to persons of a certain tender age,
    who, nonetheless, played significant roles in public life and deserve to be remembered, and in detail.

    Despite what some think, I am a US citizen and love US history in its richness.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 12-29-2015 at 10:11 AM.
    damit, basta.

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    Some perspective, perhaps unwanted by others....

    SS regalia ca. 1978

    Thirty seven years hence, this regalia may indeed be worthless, or not.

    I think not.

    You are free to disagree, and you can call me a fool, but kindly do so politely and with good humor.
    damit, basta.

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    With apologies to the nice people at Wikipedia, here is my reference to Malthus,

    "....In 1779, Thomas Malthus wrote:

    Famine seems to be the last, the most dreadful resource of nature. The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world.
    — Thomas Malthus, 1798. An Essay on the Principle of Population. Chapter VII, p61[1]..."
    damit, basta.

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    Count me among those who share the sense of satire. It's necessary here, now and again. And in life, now more than ever. Even if the thread deviated into a schooling on the sturmband - which was very helpful and a query I was no doubt going to reserve for another thread.

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ID:	918279Schooling on the Sturmband is my normal duty, whereas being the home room teacher to supervise the fourth grade play ground is not my true calling.

    Happy new year and do kindly allow me my outburst of spleen after a series of blow outs at high speed around the place.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    8. ) I take great pleasure in other people learning, and I hope that we have enabled others to understand complicated facts, debate complex issues, and expand the circle of people who can collect and preserve these items.
    Indeed, and cheers.

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    Quote by seventyeighth View Post
    Indeed, and cheers.
    You are very welcome and I hope you enjoy your collection and that it grows along with our collective learning.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	918281My warm thanks to Larry C. for his steadfastness, grit and determination in the face of ankle biters and banana peel tossers who make life more challenging than it really should be. He is a very, very fine person and good friend.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	918268some one hundred and sixty nine persons have read this thread, some of whom, apparently, do not share my sense of satire about the stories, myths, legends and gun show old wives' tales told about ss regalia.

    May i note the following list of negations in this connection:

    1. I am not a militaria dealer.
    1.1 i am not the boy on the burning deck, nor am i being crucified on a golden cross.
    1.2 i do not embrace populism in politics and i do not endorse the polarized politics in my native country and in europe.
    2. I am not a globally empowered banker.
    3. I am not a banker with the us federal reserve.
    4. I am not a speculator in real estate, nor do i offer foolish and criminal loans to people who cannot afford real estate.
    5. I am not an economist, nor an expert in the biotope of antiquities and such rare items as cultural treasures, graphic arts, musical manuscripts, and contents of
    plundered cloisters etc.
    6. I do not bear responsibility for what happens at high end military shows in conus, which i do not visit.
    7. I do not bear responsibility for the epochal changes in western industrial democracies and their work forces since, more or less, the onset of the first oil crisis
    and the stagflation of my storied youth, i.e. The late 1960s and the early 1970s.
    8.) i do not understand the habits of thought or even world view of many people who read what i write, and i cannot be held responsible in any way if many
    people attracted to the collection of ss regalia apparently respond with written outbursts that go well beyond good manners and decorum. Freudian projection and burden shifting are typical psychological crutches of many here, and their frequency does not enable these phenomena to accord with the truth.
    9.) i do not speculate in this material for financial profit, though i, at least, hope to recoup my money, but maybe i won't . It is not the focus of why i do this.
    10.) i do not endorse those people or the activities of those people who treat these items solely as a speculative commodity void of any intrinsic historical and cultural
    importantance.
    11.) in accordance with the rules of this site, i eschew the political goals of national socialism, fascism, and other doctrines of organized political violence
    as a threat to life and limb and to the peace, prosperity and security which we have no right to take for granted, any longer.
    12.) i condemn persons who veil their neo nazi agenda and revisionist political goals with leading, snickering posts and indirect attempts to call into question
    the politically neutral work of the persons who uphold this site. Such persons deserve very harsh treatment and i do my level best to see that they get it, and
    three bags full.

    A series of theses of a positive nature.

    1.) i am a professional historian and have made decades of effort to attain and retain this role.
    2.) i embrace the aims and methods of advanced study and see my collection and other solid collections as useful and important for historical scholarship. I have a large professional library, and my collection is an adjunct to this resource, and i use it for my work. This site has been an adjunct to this work, not the least for me to understand how my own conventional class room differs from this digital seminar. It surely does.
    3.) i affirm that the cultural history of war and its aesthetic dimension are important for public inquiry and analysis.
    4.) ss regalia is valuable because of its connection to central events of modern history and, despite its violent and more or less repugnant nature,
    it should and must be preserved for purposes of historical-political education, especially by young persons who are easily attracted to the symbols of national socialism amid a period polarizing politics and crisis. Real human beings did all these things, and the remnants of their lives make this point abundantly clear.
    5.) i support this website as the very best place to examine this material and am happy that others share here their knowledge and their joy learning.
    6.) humor and satire are very often the best remedy to the cultural pessimism, malthusian gloom, and otherwise beggar-thy-neighbor syndrome and "trope" that often is dominant in the digital realm.
    7.) humankind has survived for centuries, despite predictions of impending doom, and young people alive today probably have better prospects than they know, despite all the manifest misery and suffering one does, indeed, see and which i deplore.
    8. ) i take great pleasure in other people learning, and i hope that we have enabled others to understand complicated facts, debate complex issues, and expand the circle of people who can collect and preserve these items.
    9.) since i started my diatribe here in 2008, i have seen several people collect with great success and i applaud their progress and hope that they find things that will interest
    all of us and from which we can learn more.
    9.1. Sometimes they find nice things, tire of them, and then sell them to me, which is very pleasant as i can help them and my collection has grown.

    Happy new year and, once more, my thanks to our alert moderators for turfing out such personages who try to destroy this site.
    Pithy

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