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SS/SD tunic with empty cufftitle - ask for help

Article about: Hi guys, I would like to know your opinion about this tunic with SD empty cufftitle. I belive the tunic itself is original m42 type but made in 1944 but is the cufftitle original? And should

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    I agree with FB that the cuff title is a very poor fake. There is no evidence that this tunic is WW2 era except for a spurious ink stamp. The cut of the tunic is incorrect f ro a SD tunic.
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    Father of one guy was working in that factory during war. I will ask for more pictures but I really think it is m42 police tunic.

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    You should post this on the Police forum. The color looks more like Police and it has the pleated top pocket and unpleatef lower. If it is original it will be easy to restore at a fraction of the cost of SS insignia.

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    Quote by kirby View Post
    You should post this on the Police forum. The color looks more like Police and it has the pleated top pocket and unpleatef lower. If it is original it will be easy to restore at a fraction of the cost of SS insignia.
    Well said. I did not recognize the Polizei cut of the item, and, in an extreme sense, I can imagine an SD man using a police uniform, since there was an overlap of kinds.

    However, the stamp does not please me, nor does the cuff title, as I have shown you from my own collection the proper appearance of such an item.

    We also deal with tangible pictorial and documentary evidence on this site.

    Happy cuffs.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Name:  DSCN0009.jpg
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    I only bought the black tunic in the year 2003. It had an overcoat, which I did not buy.
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    Excuse my ignorance, but what was the use of the blank cuff title? Was it a sign of an unasigned unit?

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    Quote by AMTG View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but what was the use of the blank cuff title? Was it a sign of an unasigned unit?
    The blank cuff title was used in various ways, too difficult to explain here in detail.

    Andreas or others more able and intelligent than I can list the varieties and permutations.


    What I enclose was used by the SD Sipo.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	924398look at para "dd" for the details....document courtesy Mr. d'Alquen.
    damit, basta.

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    Uniforms of the SS Volume 5 Sicherheitsdienst Und-Sicherheitspolizei 1931-1945: Andrew Mollo: Amazon.com: Books
    damit, basta.

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