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Article about: A very odd collar patch, isn't it? Apart from the fact that the 21st Standarte was subordinate to Abschnitt III and later XVI (rather than XIII), placing an Abschnitt number before a Standar

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    Could use some help to identify the standarte reflected on this Allgemeine tab -thanks in advance.

    Horst

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    XIII = Stuttgart

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    In an official addres-list from October 1937 (Anschriften-Verzeichnis der Schutzstaffeln der NSDAP,
    sanctioned by th RFSS) with handwritten information from summer 1938, Standarte 21 is listed as
    Magdeburg (Abschnitt XVI, Oberabschnitt Mitte). Maybe others can give the meaning for XXIII
    (maybe it means the 13th Sturm in Standarte 21 when I read the OB well, but I do not have an
    idea if an SS-Standarte can have that much Sturm-numbers).

    Upon the right collar patch the Roman number for the Standarte was included.

    Stuttgart is not correct. They had Standarte 13, Abschnitt X, Oberabschnitt Südwest.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Merci for the quick response -so what area does it represent- Stuttgart or Magdeburg???
    Wilhelm - Danke but there is only one "X" (XIII)

    Horst
    "He who hesitates is lost - is not only lost but miles from the next exit"

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    The number for an Abschnitt was in Latin, Oberabschnitt X, included Standarte 13 and Standarte 81
    (anyway in late 1937). 81, which was Würzburg, later was transferred to Abschnitt IX (Main).
    Abschnitt XIII had 9 (Stettin), 39 (Köslin) and 77 (Schneidemühl) in Oberabschnitt Nord.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Quote by Wilhelm Saris View Post
    The number for an Abschnitt was in Latin, Oberabschnitt X, included Standarte 13 and Standarte 81
    (anyway in late 1937). 81, which was Würzburg, later was transferred to Abschnitt IX (Main).
    Abschnitt XIII had 9 (Stettin), 39 (Köslin) and 77 (Schneidemühl) in Oberabschnitt Nord.
    Wilhelm - once more many thanks - so standarte 21 was in Abschnitt XIII but we still have to identify what 21 was??What location did Abscnitt XIII encompass??
    Sorry for these questions, not really into SS as my area is PL -thanks for your help
    Horst
    "He who hesitates is lost - is not only lost but miles from the next exit"

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    see earlier note: 21 is Magdeburg.
    XXIII was Obersbschnitt Nord. Maybe you did not understand well.
    Read post 3 and 5.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Yes, but the bottom line is we still don't know what unit the tab in posting 1 reflects??

    Horst
    "He who hesitates is lost - is not only lost but miles from the next exit"

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    Yes, Standarte 21 is for sure! So the area of Magdeburg is for sure!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Perhaps you could post pictures of the other rank collar patch and the cuff title, if the tunic has one. This might make an opinion a little easier.
    d'Alquen

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