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SS-stuff (Visor cap, Cufftitle)

Article about: Hi, need some help with this stuff that are for sale on a website. I personally think it looks alittle fishy, but i'm not an expert! Your opinions are welcome /Farradin

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    Thanks. The West Germans did not embrace the prospect of having an army again only a few years after the defeat, especially at a time when much of the country was still in ruins, professional soldiers had discredited themselves because of the regime, fathers, sons and brothers were still in Soviet captivity, et cetera. Kirst's work captured this mood very well, not the least as to the shadow side of garrison life also portrayed in the novel and film "From Here to Eternity," as concerns the brown shoe US Army of yore.

    Such things are a bridge too far for people today, who have no experience of any of this and relate to military affairs through videos games to their great detriment.

    Postscriptum: there are no SS cap badges in these images.


    Mr. Tricot here suffers from the Fahrenheit 451 problem of book reading, a bad habit in which I choose to indulge him and thus rebel against the Zeitgeist. He and I both write for a living, so we have to stick together here.
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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    Thanks. The West Germans did not embrace the prospect of having an army again only a few years after the defeat, especially at a time when much of the country was still in ruins, professional soldiers had discredited themselves because of the regime, fathers, sons and brothers were still in Soviet captivity, et cetera. Kirst's work captured this mood very well...
    As I assumed. I'm sure the good people of the FRG had no desire to be the stage of the superpower's Götterdämmerung. If the Soviet's had run for the Fulda, I imagine the crunching sound would have been the Bundeswher. Hopefully providing the US Armor Corps time to mount their steeds.

    Is Reforger still played? Or is it all Powerpoint and sandtables?

    And the early Bundeswher, it would seem, wore no totenkopfs on their hats. (See what I'm doing?)

    Were any of the new FRG formations resurrected NS/Reichswher formations, or was it all a clean slate? Due to the recent unpleasantness I would assume "clean slate."

    And the 451 reference is apt, it would take a brigade of arsonists to destroy my tome hoard!

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    As I assumed. I'm sure the good people of the FRG had no desire to be the stage of the superpower's Götterdämmerung. If the Soviet's had run for the Fulda, I imagine the crunching sound would have been the Bundeswher. Hopefully providing the US Armor Corps time to mount their steeds.

    Is Reforger still played? Or is it all Powerpoint and sandtables?

    And the early Bundeswher, it would seem, wore no totenkopfs on their hats. (See what I'm doing?)

    Were any of the new FRG formations resurrected NS/Reichswher formations, or was it all a clean slate? Due to the recent unpleasantness I would assume "clean slate."

    And the 451 reference is apt, it would take a brigade of arsonists to destroy my tome hoard!
    Dear Sir, I will answer all these questions when I come back from the cloud, which is now on the march once more. I have concerned myself with certain of these issues professionally, as a matter of fact. But such themes are outside the confines of SS cap badges, are they not?

    The death's head as used by the SS is forbidden in the FRG as a Nazi emblem. You are not surprised by this fact, surely. In Germany and Austria the laws concerning neo Nazis are far more strict than in other nations for reasons that I shall not elucidate here. Nor should this statement be a carte blanche for those who misunderstand same to embark on the kind of ranting that belongs on the appropriate websites out there in their number. This is an unpolitical, that is apolitical and non political website devoted the examination of regalia and militaria.
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    As a consolation for our readers uninterested in the European past, a return herewith to the narrower theme. My posts tend to swerve into odd directions. This cap is in the Wilkins book and I somehow did not manage to sell it either.
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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    As a consolation for our readers uninterested in the European past, a return to the narrower theme. My posts tend to swerve into odd directions.
    That is some beautiful head wear, truly a master piece of art, and the same goes for the tunics you own..

    You have some great items.

    Always a pleasure to see what you post.

    Brian

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    Quote by blackheart0866 View Post
    That is some beautiful head wear, truly a master piece of art, and the same goes for the tunics you own..

    You have some great items.

    Always a pleasure to see what you post.

    Brian
    Thank you, Brian, I am glad they please you, since such is the point of the thing, after all. Others have even better things, really, but none of them seems inclined to share any more; and maybe I am naive to do so, but I am so tired of all the fakes and lousy junk that otherwise pollutes our minds and wrecks our spirit.

    Thanks and happy collecting.
    damit, basta.

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    I return to mutzes shirm, tech and feld. I was wondering if any traditions pins, Braunschwieg et al. survived the reincarnation of German forces.

    Returning to the visor and tunic bling primordial of this thread, which is clearly a repro. Here is my quick assessment of its issues...

    1. Piping appears too thick.
    2. No sweat diamond.
    3. Non standard insignia.
    4. Liner under sweatband is too loose, lacking the pressed look of genuine liners.
    5. The visor appears to be non-leather. Underside lacks proper crosshatching.

    The tab's runes are clearly mis-shaped, that is the most immediate tell. I'm sure closer photos will reveal problems with the buckram, backing and silver cording.

    The embroidered eagle is just plain bad. Is it bullion? Seems to be a copy of an early officer's bullion pattern.

    The cufftitle is the best rendered of the objects, but still fake. The letters are a little too thick. But it is close.

    My observations and opinions. That's all.

    I have also observed bad SS cloth swims in schools.

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    YES, I'm so tired of being offered so much junk, and garbage.

    All i want to do is buy some original , authentic items, I do not think that is asking too much, but then we have these piles of dung that flood the market with garbage, and with the new collectors coming up, they are being fooled, and being ripped off for thousands of dollars.

    Brian

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    Quote by Tricot View Post
    I return to mutzes shirm, tech and feld. I was wondering if any traditions pins, Braunschwieg et al. survived the reincarnation of German forces.

    Returning to the visor and tunic bling primordial of this thread, which is clearly a repro. Here is my quick assessment of its issues...

    1. Piping appears too thick.
    2. No sweat diamond.
    3. Non standard insignia.
    4. Liner under sweatband is too loose, lacking the pressed look of genuine liners.
    5. The visor appears to be non-leather. Underside lacks proper crosshatching.

    The tab's runes are clearly mis-shaped, that is the most immediate tell. I'm sure closer photos will reveal problems with the buckram, backing and silver cording.

    The embroidered eagle is just plain bad. Is it bullion? Seems to be a copy of an early officer's bullion pattern.

    The cufftitle is the best rendered of the objects, but still fake. The letters are a little too thick. But it is close.

    My observations and opinions. That's all.

    I have also observed bad SS cloth swims in schools.
    The Bundeswehr employs the Edelweiss of the Gebirgsjaeger, originally an Austrian badge. The lineage and honors in the Bundeswehr has been quite different from that of the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht for obvious reasons connected to the themes I mentioned above. The NVA of the DDR made an attempt to borrow aspects of customs and ceremonies in the former armies, but this policy was a strange amalgam and only reflected some external features of the early 20th century, whereby the NVA was fundamentally an army of the socialist type (Trotsky) the legacy of which is on display in Moscow today. The armies of the two cold war German states had significant differences in their institutions of command, obedience and morale as well as their symbolism. In fact, they waged a cold war with each other over just these symbols and personalities in the 1950s and 1960s.

    If you search under Tradition in der Bundeswehr in Google then you will find what you want. There are even some books in English on same.
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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    ...In fact, they waged a cold war with each other over just these symbols and personalities in the 1950s and 1960s...
    Now that is a very intriguing statement.

    I noted the schellenbaum in the lower center edge of the parading AFV photo. NVA kept that janissary tradition. Did the FRG do the same?

    Oh December 1989, I remember thee well...

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