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ss visor cap question

Article about: The close up of the totenkopf appears to show a silver piping on the cap which would indicate general officer. The quality and color of the piping do not meet what I would expect to find on

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    hi guys i am new to the site i have been collecting ww2 for years i think it is a great hobby! i have been looking at a ss visor cap and was wondering what you guys think of it ? i am going to try to load some photos, i looked behind the eagle and there is a rzm logo and a m1/24 on it. the skull is very tight i was a little nervous to push on the tabs to inspect the rear of the skull. any input would be greatly apprectiated. thanks dave
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    Hello Supergas-
    Welcome to the Forum. It is difficult to give an opinion based on your photographs as they are quiet small. From what I can see, the cap is lacking the RZM stamp on the backside of the visor and also lacks a cloth RZM tag in the cap. These are not positive signs. For a definitve answer, we will require larger more detailed pictures.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    here is a closer shot of the skull
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    here is the eagle the tag in the cap is erel.
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    hi bob thanks for the help could the cap be a private purchase without the rzm stamp?

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    Looks like it is Erel looks quite odd need close ups of the inside

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    sorry guys it is a stirnschutz not a erel with a small drgm on the tag.

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    damit, basta.

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    The insignia on the cap at the start here does not look authentic, such as the images indicate anything.

    I have not see a black Lubstein officer's cap to my satisfaction. I have seen enlisted black caps, but these have the normal post mid 1934 production traits, i.e. runes, tags etc.

    I would never say never with these things, but I have looked at a few black officer's cap, and would be awfully skeptical of a black cap with what would be a conventional ca. 1939 Lubstein interior. I.e. Sonderklasse, with the fore head pressure free stuff.
    damit, basta.

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ID:	434845Here is a Mueller cap from 1935 with a maker's logo, but such logos were banned in 1935, and thus til about 1941.
    damit, basta.

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