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SS Wachverbaende 1935, introduction of insignia conditions.

Article about: The origins of the insignia in the SS Totenkopfverbaende, or SS Wachverbaende as they were called in 1935 in the documents below give rise to much speculation. The cuff titles were introduce

  1. #11

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    I will let others translate all of this, since I did enough work just to find it all.
    I'll have a go...


    "49,35 Cuff Titles for SS-Guard Units

    In issue 22 of 2 August 1935, price changes for cuff titles (items no. 1052 through 1056) have been announced.
    These cuff titles, which are exclusively worn by members of the SS-Guard Units, may not be distributed by the authorized retail outlets, but, for reasons of control, may only be purchased by SS-agencies directly from the
    Reichszeugmeisterei."



    16,35 SS-Trousers

    When ordering SS-trousers, a differentiation has to be made between the SS-boot-cut trousers
    [Stiefelhosen] and the breeches [Breecheshosen], which had been previously designated as service trousers [Diensthosen]. Contrary to the service trousers, the boot-cut trousers are of a type that can neither be laced nor buttoned at the calves, but which is fastened around the ankles by drawstrings.
    Therefore, when placing orders, it is to be precicesly stated whether boot-cut trousers or breeches are desired.



    "27,35 Summer Uniform and Drill Clothing for the SS.

    Is is once again stressed that the ready-for-wear manufacture of any kind of SS-clothing is prohibited. This applies to suits made of summer-weight twill, to drill work clothing and to any kind of special clothing. All orders for these items of clothing are exclusively made by the RZM and may only be carried out on behalf of the RZM. The sole exception to this is fully bespoke tailoring
    ."




    (Off to lunch now. More later in the afternoon...)

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    thanks for the help with these arcane details, but such little bits of the mosaic constitute the whole.Click image for larger version. 

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    damit, basta.

  4. #13

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    The one thing that stands out in all of this, I am no longer certain as concerns the numbers one associates with certain makers, since there such flux in the whole thing.
    The secondary sources do not do this fact justice at all.
    damit, basta.

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    ...More...:



    "30,35 Sale of SS-Items

    In consultation with the
    Reichsführung-SS, permission is given to the authorized retail outlets that from now on, the following SS-itmes may also be sold:

    SS-drill suits,
    SS-sports clothing insignia, woven,
    SS-daggers.

    Sale of these items is only permitted after an examination of the SS-identification card.
    Sale of the SS-enlisted ranks' belt buckles is still prohibited to the retail outlets.
    "




    "9,35 SS-Price Lists

    The RZM payment terms according to which orders of at least 50.--
    Reichsmarks are delivered free of charge for costs of packaging and postage remain unchanged.



    10,35 Collar Patches and Cuff Titles

    We stress once more that collar patches and cuff titles in aluminum embroidery are only worn by
    Untersturmführer and higher.
    Special regulations exist only for the
    SS-Verfügungstruppen."

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    Still more...:



    "8,35 SS-Shoulder Boards and Service Badges

    The SS-Procurement Office
    [Beschaffungsamt-SS] announces herewith that from now on shoulder boards for SS-Men are issued in black/aluminum. The previously issued shoulder boards in black/white are still in compliance with regulations and may thus be sold off by the retail outlets. A redemption of the aforementioned items by the SS-Procurement Office shall not be undertaken under any circumstances; return consignments that are received despite of this shall be returned to the sender without a reimbursement.
    At this point, it should be pointed out that collar patches and cuff titles for SS-Men are only in stock with white embroidery and thus cannot be supplied with silver-grey embroidery. Thus, the orders and enquries that still arrive in large numbers despite repeated announcements are pointless
    .



    13,35 Department 10, previously SS-Procurement Office [Beschaffungsamt SS]

    It is announced that the designation 'SS-Procurement Office' is abolished for organizational reasons. The previous SS-Procurement Office is now designated:
    Reichszeugmeisterei - Department 10.

    The previous address as the SS-Procurement Office is thus discontinued. All correspondence destined for this department are to be addressed to Department 10 of the
    Reichszeugmeisterei."

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    Thanks for your kind and fine translation. Such illustrates the reality of this regalia versus the dim witted understanding of regulations and German society as manifest among many collectors and self anointed cyber savants in a period that ended some forty or thirty years before they were born....
    SS enlisted insignia underwent several generalized changes, but did not do so in the manner that the secondary works depict. Such has considerable implications for collectors of SS insignia, in fact.
    damit, basta.

  8. #17

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    ...And one of particular interest:


    "76,35 Delivery of blank Collar Patches

    Up until now regulations were in force to the effect that only fully-finished - i.e. already embroidered - collar patches were allowed to be delivered to the wholesalers and retail outlets.
    However, since the authorized wholesalers and retail outlets frequently run into sales difficulties when individual patches with special cyphers are ordered, we permit the cloth insignia manufactures to deliver blank patches. However, the embroidery of these patches as and when required may only be undertaken by an authorized embroidery business, a fact which we particularly stress.
    In order to control compliance with these regulations, the
    Reichszeugmeisterei issues new control tags [Erkennungsmarken] at a price of 1/2 Pfennig. The manufacturers of blank patches are required to apply such a control tag to o n e patch out of every pair. On the other patch, which is to be embroidered, an matching control tag is to applied by the embroidery business.
    For collar patches that are fully finished by the same company, the previous control tag at 1
    Pfennig pertains. "
    Last edited by HPL2008; 07-24-2011 at 07:55 PM.

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    Elegant translations HPL.
    Much appreciated,
    d'alquen

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    Quote by HPL2008 View Post
    ...And one of particular interest:


    "76,35 Delivery of blank Collar Patches

    Up until now regulations were in force to the effect that only fully-finished - i.e. already embroidered - collar patches were allowed to be delivered to the wholesalers and retail outlets.
    However, since the authorized wholesalers and retail outlets frequently run into sales difficulties when individual patches with special cyphers are ordered, we permit the cloth insignia manufactures to deliver blank patches. However, the embroidery of these patches as and when required may only be undertaken by an authorized embroidery business, a fact which we particularly stress.
    In order to control compliance with these regulations, the
    Reichszeugmeisterei issues new control tags [Erkennungsmarken] at a price of 1/2 Pfennig. The manufacturers of blank patches are required to apply such a control tag to o n e patch out of every pair. On the other patch, which is to be embroidered, an matching control tag is to applied by the embroidery business.
    For collar patches that are fully finished by the same company, the previous control tag at 1
    Pfennig pertains. "

    Thanks, too, for your yeoman work with all these Schnipsel of the dark past. The piece on collar patches is interesting, since such reflects what is obvious that there is great variety in embroidery, granted that in former times such embroidery firms existed in plenty. The mechanism of the tags is also noteworthy, since this excerpt explains the fee system that went with the tags. This material has more merit than the balderdash and archaeological clap trap, if it even deserves that title, that reigns supreme on the other gee whiz, baby talk, lord of the flies site, whose purpose is other than knowledge.

    The RZM circulars make far more vivid and tangible, as do the UM articles, the reality of this regalia, which emerges imbedded in a German society, economy, culture and state in the consolidation of the Nazi state and the imposition of control---the attempt, versus some zombie like science fiction novel interpetation---on a section of the German economy.
    The secondary works, with the exception of Mollo, do not do this material justice at all, neither the Wilkins book nor the Beaver books, which are far too linear, two dimensional, and suffused of the odd mentality of the SOS and MAX shows, or what the internet nemesis of Knight's Cross holders calls the Oligarchy.

    The "take aways," to use this stupid phrase, from the entries about insignia are: a.) changes in regalia in the regulations caused confusion and push back not the least in the quartermaster and procurement structure, because of thrift and the entropy inherent in such persons as ran said organization; in the second instance, b.) this whole thing was hardly as monolithic and unitary as the buff and non book reader amateur would believe, especially with reliance on a single sentence gleaned from a website. The primary sources do not have nice illustrations, as a rule, but they contain the original voice of the past, in this case in a hectoring German with an Oberbayern accent, that does not emerge elsewhere.
    Thanks to my colleague in Germany for his nuanced and skilled translations.

    Anyone who has served in a military organization will also recognize the truth of the above, since these phenomena endure and flourish among Etappenmenschen here and there.
    damit, basta.

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    The things I have found in the RZM circulars are very compelling, in fact. I have been reading principally for SS and some other headwear things. I am sure others would read more carefully and with a more critical eye than do I.Click image for larger version. 

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    damit, basta.

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