Become our sponsor and display your banner here
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Austrian M17 transitional helmet

Article about: I have just obtained an Austrian model 1917 transitional helmet which is actually in better condition that the photographs suggest. Once again my dreaded flash has tended to make the rust lo

  1. #1

    Default Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    I have just obtained an Austrian model 1917 transitional helmet which is actually in better condition that the photographs suggest. Once again my dreaded flash has tended to make the rust look far worst than it actually is!

    There is probably about 65% of the original paint remaining to the outer shell. The 'birdie' decal is about 90% intact, but faded. On the right side is evidence of the tricolour shield, but the top section is white. Can anyone advise what it may have been? The inside of the shell is stamped... 64 - the size, and on the top outside of the shell is stamped the number... 171. Can anyone explain what this might mean?

    The inner band of the helmet is in a sorry state, and has been repaired at some stage, and could actually do with repairing again. I don't know much about liners, so if this is the correct liner or not I don't know. But I would think if someone has taken the trouble to try and repair it - it probably is. The band (what's left of it) carries the makers mark of... SCHUBERTH-WERKE and is dated 1937. I think the chinstrap is a repro, and its probable that the rivets are replacements. I summise that the originals were probably damaged when the inner band was removed to repair. For all it's faults, it is still a very interesting and scarce helmet. As always, opinions - good and bad are welcome!

    Harry.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1383.jpg 
Views:	701 
Size:	199.0 KB 
ID:	103031   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1385.jpg 
Views:	818 
Size:	238.1 KB 
ID:	103032  

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1392.jpg 
Views:	261 
Size:	248.9 KB 
ID:	103033   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1391.jpg 
Views:	202 
Size:	216.8 KB 
ID:	103034  

    Last edited by HARRY THE MOLE; 05-07-2010 at 09:51 PM.

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    P
    Many
     

  3. #2

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Looks all correct Harry , the other decal is indeed a tricolor in my opinion. The colors just disappeared leaving only the backing paper sticking to the helmet.

  4. #3

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Quote by Schwerpunkt View Post
    Looks all correct Harry , the other decal is indeed a tricolor in my opinion. The colors just disappeared leaving only the backing paper sticking to the helmet.
    Any idea's about the number on the top?

  5. #4

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Quote by HARRY THE MOLE View Post
    Any idea's about the number on the top?
    They are lot numbers as you can find on German helmets on the inside skirt. I believe the letter is a factory code.

  6. #5

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    HARRY THE MOLE , the stamp on the top on the top of the helmet (usually stamped on inside of crown, i have occasionally seen stamped on the outside) will be the batch number of the steel used by the maker to stamp the helmet out of (peculiar to Imperial helmets), to the maker it usually identifies the rolling mill.

  7. #6

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Is the crescent around the lot numbers on the top a repair of battle damage? If so, it certainly looks to have been period done. Overall, a nice representative Austrian Transitional, which are getting harder and harder to find these days. Cheers, Jim G.

  8. #7

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Quote by helmet2id View Post
    Is the crescent around the lot numbers on the top a repair of battle damage? If so, it certainly looks to have been period done. Overall, a nice representative Austrian Transitional, which are getting harder and harder to find these days. Cheers, Jim G.
    Hi Jim,
    To be honest, I really have no idea! It looks as though it's taken a few knocks to the top in it's life. But looking at the metal, and the wear to the metal, I would suspect that the knocking-out of these dents would probably have been done in it's service life. The crescent you refer to on the top does not show up on the inside. When I first saw that, I presumed it was just rust-staining. But now I'm not so sure!

    Harry.

  9. #8

    Default Re: Austrian M17 transitional helmet

    Quote by Schwerpunkt View Post
    They are lot numbers as you can find on German helmets on the inside skirt. I believe the letter is a factory code.
    I think that is how my helmet may have looked about 70 years ago! Very nice indeed.

Similar Threads

  1. Black SS Transitional Helmet

    In SS Helmet forum
    06-11-2013, 11:32 AM
  2. 02-27-2010, 07:09 PM
  3. austro m17 helmet help please

    In World Steel Helmets
    02-01-2010, 06:38 PM
  4. 09-14-2008, 03:26 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •