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07-04-2016 07:07 PM
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It is an interwar commercially produced "Himmler Helmet", so called because Himmler is often seen in pictures wearing the combat weight version of this style shell, which had WWI style vent lugs. This one is probably a lighter gauge steel, and originally had screen vents instead of the frankenstein lugs. With the neck flap tabs on the liner it was probably a fire police helmet. This style shell was used by the Luftschutz, police and fire police units, factory police, etc.
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helmet2id
It is an interwar commercially produced "Himmler Helmet", so called because Himmler is often seen in pictures wearing the combat weight version of this style shell, which had WWI style vent lugs. This one is probably a lighter gauge steel, and originally had screen vents instead of the frankenstein lugs. With the neck flap tabs on the liner it was probably a fire police helmet. This style shell was used by the Luftschutz, police and fire police units, factory police, etc.
The metal is the same grade / thickness as a standard WW1 combat helmet, possibly a bit thicker even. I assumed at first that it was a weird combat helmet where the lugs had been removed. Doing some of my own research I thought it was a Himmler at first, too, but Jacob Caputo of Alexandre & Sons said this, yesterday:
"What you have is actually not a true "Himmler helmet" always it looks pretty similar to one. This type of helmet is known as an Austrian style M16. It is one of the many commercially produced helmets from the 1930s. These helmets were worn by the Hermann Goring police, the SA and a few other organizations. The helmet never had lugs. It had screen vents where the holes are. They probably lot at some point. From what I can tell your helmet is original. I do not think it was used by the Fire department. That color makes me think one of the German police organizations."
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Rabaul
Thanks this thread just answered my questions on this.
Being new to this I was thinking the higher strap rivets might mean it was a messed with Berndorf, but this post saved me.
Any comments on the Moon motif?
Regards
Steve
I've never seen that, but thank you so much for posting your helmet! Can I get a better / bigger shot of the vents? I'm still looking to replace mine, which are missing.
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wss1939
I've never seen that, but thank you so much for posting your helmet! Can I get a better / bigger shot of the vents? I'm still looking to replace mine, which are missing.
Sorry, I didn't buy it because of this thread. Love to have it, but for finacial and space reasons I have to have some self imposed limits on what I collect.
As I said as it has high strap rivets I thought it might be a late WWI Berndorf, now I know better.
Regards
Steve
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