Have you looked at the Bundesarchiv photos in L. Baer? Are those cut down DDR helmets also?
The B/II posted is a close match with the one in Baer p.397.
And oh, BTW: these helmets are hardened steel, much more difficult to work with. Even drilling a hole is a production.
Changing the shape could involve cutting pie shaped sections of the helmet out, and then bending, welding and grinding; a major effort even with non-hardened steel.
Gentlemen, please keep this civil.
Calm down guys, there no point fighting over the internet because you cant actually prove anything with by getting pissed off with each other, make your points, present your evidence and leave it at that. Whoever has the fakes, who cares, its just another scumbag to add to the list.
these guys have brought waf over with them as this looks to whare it started.
2 big differences from the one hear and the original below.
The Button on the fromnt of the lid is standard M42 size whilst the B/II should have a smaller one.
The cut-out on the original seems shallower not like the one here or on the M56 NVA.
My personal opinion is that its a copy B/II
My helmet collecting interests lie in very latewar and unusual pieces, a niche that most collectors do not feel comfortable with.
The comfort in collecting standard helmets lies in knowing that your helmets look like everyone elses, and that eveyone else approves of them.
I enjoy posting helmets for discussion and research, but ususally not for approval. If I don't convince everyone, thats fine. I don't actually need everyone's approval to know that my helmets are likely originals.
My collecting career spans over 3 decades, and why I am certainly not immune to error, I believe I have developed an eye for unusual original pieces.
I do enjoy discussing, but not arguing. There is no point in that. You don't have to agree with me, and I don't have to agree with you.
No back to helmets; my experience tells me that the first helmet is an untouched, factory produced example, while the one below is one I have altered.
The Baer photo negatives may have been stretched during copy, which may account for the elongated appearance and flatter top. But I do believe that this helmet is the same type as shown in the Baer photos.
1. Cut the helmet along this line - the visor gets shorter
2. Heat the helmet and press in this area - the helmet gets wider, the top goes up
3. Add new rivet holes and close the old ones, give it a new paint - what do you have?
Brian, why do you never post the daylight pictures?
-Let me answer: Because the real repro paint doesn´t fool anyone.