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Prove it is not a M35 DD Kriegsmarine

Article about: by KradSpam If it had been damaged during fighting you would expect to see a great deal of blood damage to the leather. I think there is a part of the liner cut out. Will take a better look

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    Default Prove it is not a M35 DD Kriegsmarine

    Ok I need help on this one. (For starters I am new to helmet collecting but I have learned some already)

    I bought this M35 DD on a real auction today (by real I mean there was a guy in the room with a hammer and you put your hand up to bid)
    I looked at it on Friday and took these pics, they are not so good but it is what I got and what I thought I needed.
    Today I decided on a maximum bid and I waited for the helmet to be called out. To my surprise the auction guy said "blablabla... and I know for a fact this is a so called Kriegsmarine helmet"

    When I looked at it on friday I thought at first it might be, but looking at the decal I was 99% sure it was not. I asked the guy if he was sure and he said "- Yes". I said "-Are you 100% sure"... -"Yes"

    Based on this info I decided to raise my maximum bid and I won the auction.

    So what now?

    I will pick up the helmet tomorrow and I am still quite sure it is a really nice M35 DD, but it is not a Kreigsmarine. I will need prof of some sort to show them that they were wrong and try to get it for a lower price. The auction place is closed down so they will not have any more actions ever. I thought this would be a good bargain leverage.

    What you guys think?
    There is a genuine bullet hole in the back of the helmet, bullet came from an angle so I think the soldier was fine. No sign of blood and the liner is original since you see the bullet going through it also.

    Help... and thanks for reading.

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    Hi, the helmet itself is a beautiful genuine piece.
    A lovely original.
    If i understood correctly, your problem is showing that is not a Kriegsmarine example, in order to get it cheaper?

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    I dont think it is KM. Please take straight on pics of the decals.

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    Haaaa , I love the "real guy with a hammer bit!! All that aside I think you have a cracking double decal M35 HEER there my friend. Great ET decals , nice wear and I would say for once , a genuine bit of battlefield damage!! Well done "ol bean!" Leon.
    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote by NunoGTI View Post
    Hi, the helmet itself is a beautiful genuine piece.
    A lovely original.
    If i understood correctly, your problem is showing that is not a Kriegsmarine example, in order to get it cheaper?
    Well yes and no. When he was so sure I got unsure due to my lack of experience. If you tell me that it is a KM I will gladly pay my final bid, but if it's not I don't think it's fair. What do you think?

    I guess I have the option to walk away if I tell them I think they are wrong. I also don't know how they will react to this.

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    not a k.marine eagle.

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    Could you please elaborate why it's not a KM.
    If you don't want to post here could you send me a PM.

    I need to tell them specifics and show them why its not KM. I know about the shadow effect and gold flake look. But if you look at it in the sun it actually looks a little gold flaky. But when you see it in the shade you clearly see it's not gold.

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    Quote by mpnox View Post
    Well yes and no. When he was so sure I got unsure due to my lack of experience. If you tell me that it is a KM I will gladly pay my final bid, but if it's not I don't think it's fair. What do you think?

    I guess I have the option to walk away if I tell them I think they are wrong. I also don't know how they will react to this.
    In my opinion i think its a Heer toned decal, not Kriegsmarine.
    I agree with all replys.

    Im sure all of us, want for you to get the helmet, so wait for a few more replys.

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    Quote by helmetone View Post
    I dont think it is KM. Please take straight on pics of the decals.
    Yes I know, sorry about the bad pics but I had to shoot it at the auction place and the sun is a bitch.
    I cant get the lid home before I pay it so I can't take any pics before I do... a real catch 22!

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    mpnox, you may well find these threads of interest:

    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/steel-...ne-decal-8143/

    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/steel-...-or-heer-6763/

    Good luck,

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