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Questions about chinstraps and name labeling in (German) helmets
Dear all,
I have two questions I think about for some time and have no real idea, however they are banal maybe:
Do reasons exist that German helmets are often without chinstraps today?
IMO there are comparatively few German helmets today with name labelings of the soldiers to which the helmets belonged. (When I think about my times of services at the Bundeswehr about 30 years ago we were well adviced to label the liners with our names.) In times of the Wehrmacht perhaps it was forbidden or not necessary (one way the soldiers learned the stamped lot numbers of their helmets by heart)?
With best wishes
alter musketier
Last edited by Alter Musketier; 02-15-2015 at 10:39 PM.
In memory of my father who was in K-Einsatz, combat engagement, with the RAD in the Alps in 1945, of my grandfather who was with the IR 87 during campaign in France in 1940 and of my grand-uncle who served in the Gardegrenadierregiment Nr. 3 "Königin Elisabeth" and who was killed in action at Craonne, Chemin des Dames in France in 1917
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02-15-2015 08:40 PM
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Hi, I guess that chinstraps go "missing" on helmets because over the years they snap or deteriorate more easily than the other leather components, they are after all quite thin. As for naming on helmets, I personally have found that although a helmet may not have a full name or unit mark, at least 80% of the helmets I have owned have had a distinctive mark of some kind. Some are initialled or have purpose made "scratches" on the inner skirt. A lot of helmets are also marked using pencil on the liner which can be hard to see, especially after a lot of wear. Leon. Leon.
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another reason maybe that these helmets have past through a few custodians over time, they are easy to remove/replace
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I mostly agree with Leon but some straps are reasonably sturdy. Helmets are however quite heavy and straps can break from hanging the helmet up over time. Additionally after surrender, removing the strap may have been akin to rendering the helmet unusable. Then isofar as relics go, the liners are a bit more protected from the elements so that may be another reason why chinstraps are thin on the ground.
.... or I could be completely wrong! !
Last edited by Danmark; 02-16-2015 at 10:46 AM.
" I'm putting off procrastination until next week "
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And you have people selling the chintraps without the helmets! It's fool!
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I always have some suspiscion about sellers who always seem to have chinstraps but no helmets.
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Straps broke, are replaced by collectors, parted out, etc. Not unusual to see mint unissued M42's without straps. Helmets also had named writen in liners, on the skirts and some M35's or transitionals have name and unit tags sewn in them.
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In memory of my father who was in K-Einsatz, combat engagement, with the RAD in the Alps in 1945, of my grandfather who was with the IR 87 during campaign in France in 1940 and of my grand-uncle who served in the Gardegrenadierregiment Nr. 3 "Königin Elisabeth" and who was killed in action at Craonne, Chemin des Dames in France in 1917
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