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Stalhelm maker marks and sizes

Article about: Maker marks ET/ckl - Eisenhuttenwerke, Thale EF - Emaillierwerke A.G., Fulda NS - Vereinigte Deutsche Nikelwerke, Schwerte Q - Qvist, Esslingen SE/hkp - Sachsische Emaillier und Stanzwerke,

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    Maker marks

    ET/ckl - Eisenhuttenwerke, Thale
    EF - Emaillierwerke A.G., Fulda
    NS - Vereinigte Deutsche Nikelwerke, Schwerte
    Q - Qvist, Esslingen
    SE/hkp - Sachsische Emaillier und Stanzwerke, Lauter

    Note - There were other manufacturers, for example bvl marked Bergmann und co. and QVL marked Karl Heisler, Berlin examples. This is a list of the more common producers during the Third Reich period.

    The manufacturer's marks should be present in the following locations -

    Centre left (i.e. over the left ear)
    Rear (production number should also be present)
    Mid to late war Qvist moved their maker's mark to the rear of their helmets. EF, NS and hkp can also be found in the rear of M42 models

    Production numbers

    Generally 3-4 digits, located on the inside at the rear of the helmet.

    Sizes

    60 - XS (liner 53/54)
    62 - S (liner 55/56)
    64 - M (liner 57/58)
    66 - L (liner 59/60)
    68 - XL (liner 61/62)
    70 - XXL (liner 63/64)

    Quantities Produced (approx 25 million)

    60 - 2,500,000
    62 - 3,750,000
    64 - 10,000,000
    66 - 5,000,000
    68 - 2,500,000
    70 - 1,250,000

    Regards,

    Carl
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    Useful thread for rookies

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    What is the source of this information ?

    Can you show me an FS marked example , never seen one...
    Other makers like EF , NS , HKP also moved their maker stamps to the rear...

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    Quote by Schwerpunkt View Post
    What is the source of this information ?

    Can you show me an FS marked example , never seen one...
    Other makers like EF , NS , HKP also moved their maker stamps to the rear...
    The information came from notes that I jotted down in one of my files a long time ago. As to the original source, I honestly don't remember. I'm not a helmet collector, but I noticed the lack of a thread that offers basic information regarding the maker's marks, so I thought it might be a good idea to start one, in the hope that other more learned collectors may be able to add and certainly expand the information here, as the thread progresses.

    Regards,

    Carl
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    Good idea to have for new collectors. Would be good to quote research sources as applicable. Can be cleaned up and pinned for new members which I did.

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    The production numbers for size 70 looks really high?
    chris

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    Quote by DougB View Post
    Good idea to have for new collectors. Would be good to quote research sources as applicable. Can be cleaned up and pinned for new members which I did.
    Found it.

    The Online Guide to World War II German Helmets

    Perhaps a gallery of the maker marks would be a good addition Doug?

    Regards,

    Carl
    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

    www.concentrationcamptours.com

    www.concentrationcampmoney.com


    "maka akaŋl oyate maŋi pi ki le, tuweŋi wypeya oki hi sni"

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    Yes, good idea, I can't post anything right now with pictures as I'm restricted to an iPad right now.

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    Shell sizes 70 to the known 74 are custom order, correct? I was under the impression that 70's were not regularly produced.

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    i have a m34 civic helmet thats stamped on the liner , lehmann & wunderberg hanover and on the rear is a u shaped stamp,any ideas??

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