Yellowed Heer, or dirty Kriegsmarine M-40?

**Nathan362** · 01-03-2012, 11:31 PM

I bought this helmet at the Gunday show in Louisville a couple of years ago, and it now makes up 50% of my collection

... So, I have always thought it to be a Heer helmet (I know it is one crusty example). The more I look under a loop in the light it seems to have a gold shimmer to it. Not yellow, but a gold touch. My limited experience tells me that its likely a Heer, but I just want to see what you guys think. I have several pics of the Decal, and a couple of the helmet. So have a look, ask away. I will try to provide whatever further info I can. It is an EF-64, and the lot number I can't recall off hand, but you may be able to see it in the picture. Also, anyone wanna guess a value in its condition?

Thanks in advance,

Nathan

Yellowed Heer, or dirty Kriegsmarine M-40?

Hello guys,

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-03-2012 11:31 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Little Mermaid** · 01-03-2012, 11:32 PM

Hello.

Hm looking at photo 3 especially... To my humble eyes it looks like a Kriegsbird - has "shimmer" to it as well as a nice 3D-thingy.

Oh yeah - that decal is slanted, which I see as a good sign of it being a KM.

**DougB** · 01-03-2012, 11:39 PM

Just post a clear head on photo of the decal in natural light. I dont see the tell tale ridge of a KM but not much to go on.

**Nathan362** · 01-03-2012, 11:40 PM

Alright, I cant today as I am working, but will sure get to it asap. Thanks!

**MD Helmets** · 01-04-2012, 03:20 AM

I thought for a second it looked like a thin wing, but that magnifying glass is throwing off my eyes! Do as Doug said, nice clear, natural light photo close-ups and we can probably tell for sure.

**Nathan362** · 01-04-2012, 03:58 AM

Ok, again, I am at work and can't get the perfect shot until tomorrow. I was able however to find an older picture in some previous e-mails I had. It is the decal with a little less (but still with) flash glare. The whole upper right side of the decal is almost gone. Again, I will get the requested pictures tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks again
Nathan

**Wagriff** · 01-04-2012, 05:21 AM

Well, even at a 2-click enlargement, I'm still seeing what looks like gold flecks in the decal to my eyes, so I'm having to think that it's a KM-Possibly a Type 2 decal, but it's hard to make out with so much of the detailing missing,of course. Still a decent helmet! William

**Schwerpunkt** · 01-04-2012, 07:52 AM

by Stinschen

Hello.

Oh yeah - that decal is slanted, which I see as a good sign of it being a KM.

You think the people in the factory received guidelines to put KM decals slanted on helmets , just for the EF factory or for all factories ? LOL
It's a Heer decal. EF Heer's are always more toned which can give the wrong impression.

**Wagriff** · 01-04-2012, 08:24 AM

Well, if yellowing can come from the gold flakes that I'm seeing , then I guess that you're right- it's a yellowed Heer then. But, for what it's worth, whatever the possible explanation for it, I have seen a whole lot more of KM helmets with an identical decal slant than I've ever seen on a Heer, but that's just an observation, so no need to laugh and get insulting.... William