Fred, thankyou for the interest and the reply to the thread.
Mostly what you have said is what I said in my first post. Ok wages have varied slightly, also you suggest there were 3 trainees not 5. However the amount of people working in the building was still 10 though. Very minor details and variation, so imo expected.
I agree shortages hit in and would eventually stop production but if the trainees weren't moved until 1943 they were presumably doing something up until then? I agree, it wouldn't have been regular swords, most likely presentation swords. With this is mind is a 1941 deadline that out of the question for normal production? However going by your report if Muller was out of the framework completely by then is it not impossible that it could have been apprentices making these presentation swords?
Would anybody really know if it wasn't him?
Interestingly there are endless accounts that upon liberation US troops found overwhelming supplies of parts and started putting them together shortly after the war. This is odd, as the last thing we heard there was a shortage of parts right?
Post war, Muller did go on to make daggers (high end mind) however from what you have said his health was bad, and practically writen off during 1940 and 1941. So I ask how would he have continued work long after the war if that was the case?
Fred, please try not to get so bothered its a thread. I have not mentioned Damascus blades at all, the reason being my sword does not have a Damascus blade therefore I felt that it wasn't my place to comment on this part.
I like to create threads about militaria that is 'in reach' for the average collector - a Dachau SS sword imo fit this category. OK a fair reach, but Damascus versions would be worth at least 10-15 times the price so well out of reach for the majority of us.
IMO many collectors dreams are not satisfied viewing pictures in books, they want real life things they can hold in there hands.
I think its important we all have something to work for in life therefore I have tried to show pictures of something very possible to achieve.
If you have a Pmd produced Damascus blade SS degen please add this to the thread (and comment) however after searching the forum I cannot find any kind of thread relating to Dachau SS officers sword's - which im sure you would have done?
Why don't we move onto topics which I haven't addressed and also anything else you wish to add in advance?
OK. Can you help me locate the forge at Dachau with this aerial shot from april 1945. I have briefly mentioned it was in the SS section but do you have knowledge of exactly where it was?
Where is was situated would answer allot of questions as to how it was run IMO.
Yellow = SS training camp
light blue = concentration camp
Dark blue = main prisoner camp
Red = herb garden
Of course we are interested in the Yellow and light blue highlighted areas - the rest I have titled in case others are wondering.
Also enclosed is a miniature scaled down version of the Dachau complex. I took this picture on my first visit back in 2013.
This may help.
I am still trying to learn more about how the forge was supplied.
Presumably, in the earlier days the forge would have been fed by a train line that ran into the SS Garrison. As the train line enterered through the southwest corner it split then headed either East or North/east the latter where it could get out from another gate.
I cannot find information about this but it is my belief is that the train stopped on the north line between the factory's.
Is this likely where an raw materials would have been brought in and unloaded to supply the forge?
many thanks matty
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