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Swords, Sabres and Imperial during the Third Reich

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    Sword 14 (156) The Trade Mark is a King's Head along side a Knight's Helm over the initials "WKC".

    a. Hilt. Cast in brass. The backstrap is riveted. The grip is of wood with a shagreen cover and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Plain.
    c. Reverse langet. Plain.
    d. Pommel. Plain dove head.
    e. Blade. Unattributed etching with single fuller in polished steel.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel scabbard with single ring suspension fitting.
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.

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  3. #252

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    Sword 15 (145) The Trade Mark is a King's Head along side a Knight's Helm over the initials "WKC".

    a. Hilt. Cast in brass with nickel plating. The backstrap is attached directly to the blade tang. The grip is of wood with a shagreen cover and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Plain.
    c. Reverse langet. Plain
    d. Pommel. Plain dove head.
    e. Blade. Plain, polished steel with single fuller.
    f. Scabbard. Missing. Anyone got a spare???
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.

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    Hi All, Some more Imperial Army swords to view by WKC.

    Regards Michael Ryan

    Sword 16 (115) There is no trade mark on the blade of this sword, however there is typical WKC style a Knight's Helm on the reverse langet of this sword??

    a. Hilt. Cast in steel and gilded and the backstrap is attached directly to the blade tang. The grip is of wood with black plastic covering and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. A floral wreath superimposed over crossed swords and crossed lances. Whilst accepting that the usual generic insignia on German swords carried by cavalry is a pair of crossed sabres, when lances are also incorporated with the sabres, there is a belief that the sword belonged to a member of a lancer or ulan regiment??
    c. Reverse langet. WKC style knight's helm with mantle surmounting a styled shield.
    d. Pommel. Lion head with red glass eyes.
    e. Blade. Plain, plated with single full size fullers. The blade is unusual in that it has a pair of very narrow fullers on either side of the standard fullers.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel scabbard with a single ring suspension fitting and no loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.

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    Sword 17 (183) The Trade Mark on the blade of this sword is a Knight's Helm over WKC

    a. Hilt. Cast brass and the backstrap is attached directly to the blade tang. The grip is of wood with black plastic covering and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Floral emblems over a vertical oval disc encompassing crossed cannon and cannon balls.
    c. Reverse langet. Floral emblems over a vertical oval disc encompassing a styalised shield.
    d. Pommel. Lion head.
    e. Blade. Plain, plated with single fullers.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel scabbard with a single ring suspension fitting and loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.


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    Sword 18 (185) The Trade Mark on the blade of this sword is a King's Head coupled with a Knight's Helm over WKC

    a. Hilt. Cast brass with riveted backstrap. The grip is of wood with a shagreen covering and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Floral emblems over a vertical oval disc encompassing crossed cannon.
    c. Reverse langet. Floral emblems over a vertical oval disc encompassing a shield.
    d. Pommel. Jawless lion head.
    e. Blade. Polished steel with unatributed etching and single fullers. Blade spine etched with "Gust. Gunther Metz", this is probably the retailer's name
    f. Scabbard. Standard nickel plated steel with double brass ring suspension fittings and no loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.


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    Hi Fellow Enthusiasts, Some more swords to view. Sticking with the firm of WKC, this batch of swords is TR Army and items 19. and 20. show quite clearly the intergration of generic components in the assembly of variation pattern swords. They share identical style crossguards and langets both obverse and reverse and also nuckle guards and ferrules. And there the similarity ends, the backstraps and pommels are totally diferent as is the hilt construction and build. Item 19. has a lion head pommel and the tang is attached through the head directly to the backstrap. Item 20. is a patterned dove head with the backstrap attached using a pair of brass rivets. Both swords have identical blades, scabbards and trade marks.

    Sword 19 (129) The Trade Mark on the blade of this sword is a Knight's Helm over WKC.

    a. Hilt. Cast brass with backstrap attached directly to the sword tang. The grip is of wood with a plastic covering and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Political style eagle superimosed over foliage emblems and facing to its right.
    c. Reverse langet. Plain shield surmounted by foliage.
    d. Pommel. Lion head with red glass eyes.
    e. Blade. Plain plated steel with single fullers.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel with single ring suspension fitting and a suspension loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite scarce.


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    Sword 20 (187) The Trade Mark on the blade of this sword is a Knight's Helm over WKC.

    a. Hilt. Cast brass with backstrap attached using a pair of brass rivets. The grip is of wood with a plastic covering and a brass wire wrap.
    b. Obverse Langet. Political style eagle superimosed over foliage emblems and facing to its right.
    c. Reverse langet. Plain shield surmounted by foliage.
    d. Pommel. Dove head pattered with foliage.
    e. Blade. Plain plated steel with single fullers.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel with single ring suspension fitting and a suspension loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite common.


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    Sword 21 (170) The Trade Mark on the blade of this sword is a Knight's Helm over WKC on the obverse side of blade rather than the more usual reverse. Although a quite rare pattern sword, this is not a style that am fond of and I suspect was not particularly popular??

    a. Hilt. Cast brass with backstrap attached using a pair of brass rivets. The grip is of wood with a plastic covering and a brass wire wrap.The guard is unusual in that it is "flatened" with the detailing on either side edge and not on the leading edge as in conventional styled swords.
    b. Obverse Langet. Military style eagle within a plain outline border and facing to its right.
    c. Reverse langet. Plain shield within a plain outline border.
    d. Pommel. Dove head pattered with foliage.
    e. Blade. Plain plated steel with single fullers.
    f. Scabbard. Standard black steel with single ring suspension fitting and a suspension loop to the reverse side of the scabbard.
    g. Rarety. Quite rare.


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    Hi Again, Just in case of any confusion with sword hilt assembly I am including a few happy snaps to illustrate the principal differences encountered on German army sabres for reference.

    1. As can be seen in the two swords below, the rivetted construction requires larger back strap "flaps" extending over the sides of the grip to accommodate the rivets. Some swords have mock rivets but actual rivets are easy to spot and test. I use a finger nail and if it is a rivet per see, you will get the nail under the edge of the rivet.


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    2. Subsequent to the removal of the rivets, tha back strap can be moved in a vertical direction to dislocate the retaining tongue at the base of the strap. As can be seen in the following shots, once the back strap has been removed this gives access to the actual grip. This makes the replacement of the grip wrap wire relatvely simple and should it be necessary to remove the complete hilt assembly from the blade, it also gives access to the tang head which is peened over the guard upper tongue.

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    With swords that have the blade tang attached directly to the back strap, there is little or no need for the "flaps" other than for aethetic reasons. There are two basic methods of attaching the back strap to the blade tang. the most bisic is to drill a hole in the pommel, insert the tang through the hole, cut it to the required length then peen the end until secure and then smooth it off. Usually found on better quality swords, the second method is a bit more involved. This requires a brass headless rivet to be attached to the end of the tang prior to assembly. The brass tip rather than the tang itself is then inserted through the pommel and peened over. On cat head swords, the usual practice is to then file the rivet in such a way as to disguise it as part of the cat's mane. Unfortunately, these types of assembly do not lend themselves to hilt repair as the whole hilt has to be removed.

    The first picture is of a simulated rivet head added as part of the design of the back strap.

    The third is of a lion head back strap held by a brass headless rivet. This is the style favoured on both TR and Imperial naval swords.

    the second is of lion head with the tang peened directly over the pommel.

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    Hi, Still with the swords of WKC and of the TR, the next three are the last from this particular manufacturer for the time being.

    Hope that they are of interest to you.

    Regards and best wishes Michael R

    Sword 22 (153) This is a standard early type Air Force sword with with heavy nickel plated fitments. It has no arsenal nor ownership markings and a plain plated single fuller blade. The Trade Mark is a Knight'd Helm over WKC.


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