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1st type enameled ring found in SS positions

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    Hi William, thanks for the images. To me the one on the left looks legit. If so then $400 probably isn't too bad seeing as a member on the WAF claimed to have been offered 1000euro for his example! The ring on the right is of course a laughable fake although I note the seller makes no claim to the piece being an authentic TR period item.

    I have to say, this ring is my favorite piece at the moment and will probably remain so for some time!

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    It Is a Very attractive ring, I have to admit. And, I also think the dark left ring looks like it just might be an original as well. If so, that would make something like 4 or 5 of this design that I've seen. One ring, I remember, the seller claimed that he sold it at an auction for $2100, but I somewhat doubt this. In any case, a fairly rare design!
    William

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    possibly good news, glenn. I remember this particular ring from some while ago but didn't pursue it at the time. Now, i see it has started being cranked out by the fakers and is being sold on ebay under a number of different descriptions. So, if the fakers have got a hold of it, it must be good, hey? Nice to have an original!
    (ebay #110914648861 + 150821409933)

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    i,ve seen couple of these rings,same details,same desighn-but newer from silver.so i verymuch believe that silver ring with this desighn offered as originals-will allways be fakes.

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    A careful study under magnification has revealed a stamping! Even though i've had this ring for over 6 months now I always assumed it was unmarked but after a real close look there is a tiny mark cut in half by the sizing line.

    Its tough to make out but it should read 'GOLDIN' which I believe is the copper and aluminum alloy used in Germany at the time for manufacture of cheap jewellery. The 'G' didn't stamp so well but the 'OLDIN' seems reasonably clear.

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    Hmm...doesn't "Goldin" mean "Made in China"? lol j/k
    William

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    This may be irrelevant to this topic but i wanted to post a couple of photos with similarities. This dagger as seen in Wittmanns SS book pg 84 resides in a private collection. This dagger is Rohm SS dedication dagger and the original owner must of really hated Rohm as he has removed Rohms signature and replaced it with a laughing skull with the date of Rohms demise. When i first saw this thread and the image on on the ring, I immediately thought of the near same image on the blade of this dagger. Larry
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    Thank you Larry, thats very interesting! I'm guessing some sort of Freikorps connotation with the smiling skull.

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    Quite the ring, Glenn!

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    Hi Stefan,

    You make an interesting point re the Freikorps connection and I suppose anything is possible yet there were many versions of Freikorps skulls. The ring is similar to the skull design of the Heydebreck Freikorps, the so-called "Werwolf" group. Here is a supposed badge from this group, the authenticity of which I cannot confirm.

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    Then of course there is the famous image of the Garford-Putilov armoured car in use by another Freikorps group and naturally there is a completely different skull emblem.

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    I am fond of this image due to the massive giant of a man on the left who looks to be 7 feet tall. Of course his two pals could just be really short!
    Great period pic of the jolly 'grey' giant!

    I also noticed the visorless helmet.

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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    This may be irrelevant to this topic but i wanted to post a couple of photos with similarities. This dagger as seen in Wittmanns SS book pg 84 resides in a private collection. This dagger is Rohm SS dedication dagger and the original owner must of really hated Rohm as he has removed Rohms signature and replaced it with a laughing skull with the date of Rohms demise. When i first saw this thread and the image on on the ring, I immediately thought of the near same image on the blade of this dagger. Larry
    Never seen that before. Interesting.

    As you say, someone must have hated his guts.

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    I am fond of this image due to the massive giant of a man on the left who looks to be 7 feet tall. Of course his two pals could just be really short!
    Pic reminded me of one I had saved somewhere. I managed to dig it out against all odds.


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    Quote by Glenn66 View Post
    Hi Stefan,

    You make an interesting point re the Freikorps connection and I suppose anything is possible yet there were many versions of Freikorps skulls. The ring is similar to the skull design of the Heydebreck Freikorps, the so-called "Werwolf" group. Here is a supposed badge from this group, the authenticity of which I cannot confirm.

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    Then of course there is the famous image of the Garford-Putilov armoured car in use by another Freikorps group and naturally there is a completely different skull emblem.

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    I am fond of this image due to the massive giant of a man on the left who looks to be 7 feet tall. Of course his two pals could just be really short!
    Allow me to add the button die I recently aquired!
    I can't come up to any thing else then thise Freikorps corps skull and bones that looks similar...., to me, that is.
    Round eyes, front view of the skull, type of bones; all these details are similar to the ones on the die...
    Details of uniform buttons would be so great, but I know by experience that they are exeptionaly rare to find of any button!
    There is a intresting thread on a Spanish forum about Freikorps insigna's, maybe I should pick up my Spanish again and ask them!
    Foro Segunda Guerra Mundial • Ver Tema - Los Freikorps alemanes 1918-23
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