It's difficult to know if the sellers of these rings are outright lying or simply ignorant of what is genuine. The three dealers I have mentioned here all seemed to be trustworthy; but then I also have to trust in their trust in those who are selling them the rings. The seller of the first ring is, or has been, a member of these forums.
The dealer of the second set of pictures insisted that his rings came from SS sites; though he admitted that there was no way to prove definitively that they were worn by the SS. He seemed so certain that his rings were genuine and had priced them accordingly. I'm certainly glad I came here before putting down that kind of money.
Let 's just say the dealers should know better and as mentioned before the honour ring is the one to go for.
Even if you can find a genuine TR "cantine ring" they aren't really worth a lot as they were not an official issue item.
As for the seller of the first ring if he's a member here he should know there is no SS connection!....
It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.
I'm Spartacus, not really i'm Paul!...
Unfortunately, you cannot trust any dealer to be perfect all the time. Dealers that are trustworthy can make mistakes that cost you money. You have picked one of the most complicated areas to collect and will have to be patient or it WILL cost you money. You will have to educate yourself and have a very keen eye, especially with rings. That's just how the hobby is, I'm afraid to say. Welcome to the forum and always post your rings before you buy. You may come across a ring that's authentic and your best chance to get one will be to post it here first and the culmination of information from experienced collectors will shine through to help.
It will be very rewarding to find a good piece, so don't give up.
Thanks, Greenhorn. I've been looking over all of the threads in the TR Ring forum trying to, as you say, educate myself. I feel I can spot the obvious well known fantasy rings just by having googled TR Rings for the past month or so, but obviously there are others, especially when listed by dealers who seem knowledgable and trustworthy, that are still getting by me.
Are there any hardcopy written resources that I might look for to further aid in my education (there are only about 7 pages of forum threads)?
Besides the first ring, which lew07 pointed out looks like it was made by a mold, I'm not clear on why the others have been identified as fake (I'd even be interested to hear more about why the first one appears fake). I'm not disputing that they are fake, I would just like to know how to recognize them as fake.
On the last one I posted there seems to be some disagreement as to its authenticity so I'm not sure what to think about that one.
As always, any resources or specific information on spotting fakes vs. real rings is most appreciated.
Welcome to the forum and the great fraud that is known as SS collecting.
Read this article I wrote for the SS helmet thread and insert SS Skull Ring instead of SS Helmet. You may find it gives you some help.
Advice for new helmet collectors looking for that elusive SS helmet