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Carin Göring's ring

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    I suggest tht you submit it to sotheby's auction house and see what they say about it. Dwight

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  3. #42

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    Quote by drmessimer View Post
    I suggest tht you submit it to sotheby's auction house and see what they say about it. Dwight
    I'll second that. A jeweler will only be able to give you an estimated value based upon construction and materials used alone, whereas an auction house would be able to correctly bring the historical aspect into an eventual evaluation as well...

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    However, despite the best of stories....the Göring connection is still simply a Story and has not been definitively established. Right now, it's just an older ring with an intriguing possible past.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    I would like to add as a rock hound that is a beautiful Mexican fire opal. The rest as mentioned is just a story unless confirmed.. You need to take that to a jeweler and have the "diamonds" and metal checked.
    Semper Fi
    Phil

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    Phil, you know your gemstones - I was thinking was too 'milky'
    yellow to be a genuine opal, and the marks/surface scratches
    had me thinking it's made of a synthetic material, however
    I'm used to seeing Australian opals.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Quote by Walkwolf View Post
    Phil, you know your gemstones - I was thinking was too 'milky'
    yellow to be a genuine opal, and the marks/surface scratches
    had me thinking it's made of a synthetic material, however
    I'm used to seeing Australian opals.........
    Who is this Opal you are talking about? and you go that often to Australia to see her? JK

    Where would the Goring's get a Mexican Opal or is that completely unrelated to the Geographical location?
    I have been watching this from the start of the thread an I am getting anxious to see if it will go anywhere...

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    Mexican Opals have only relatively recently become popular. Up until the last several years, the vast majority of Opals encountered are, indeed, Australian-usually from the Lightning Ridge mines, Coober Pedy, etc. Now, however, you're seeing more and more Mexican and African stones.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Wagriff is right in his observation, "However, despite the best of stories....the Göring connection is still simply a Story and has not been definitively established. Right now, it's just an older ring with an intriguing possible past." But established auction houses have specialists who can sometimes determine the legitimacy of an item, or at least the degree of probability or the total absence thereof, by physically examining it. If I had something like this ring and I wanted to sell it based on its historical value, real or supposed, I would certainly have someone who is in the business take a look at it. It doesn't cost anything. Dwight

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    Mexican, Australian, African opals....What about it being a Czech 'fire' opal? The area that is now the Czech Republic and Slovakia was renowned for producing the highest quality 'fire' opals in the mid 19th early 20th century, yet you have all chosen to ignore this fact.

    Would it not be more plausible that the opal may have come from this mid european region seeing as Carin Goring's family came from the same region, that being Sweden, and before that Westphalia??

    That makes more sense to me.

    I would also like to point out that the ring does bear more of a resemblance, certainly in size and shape, to the one Carin Goring is wearing in the photograph with her infant son that I posted earlier than to the one in Doorborn's photo.

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    I totally agree with Wagriff's statement but the fact that this "story" as told here surely seems to have a decent bit of foundation to it it makes it even more important to have it examined by someone with knowledge and expertise, not only in the area of jewels but also in historical artifacts and preferably the Third Reich... just like you, drmessimer, said. This if only to rule out the story, something which I, in good faith this time, do not believe would happen --- but, surely, anything's possible.
    That said, for now it's a story just like any other... but at some point, with enough credible circumstantial evidence and expert opinion, I do believe that one has to alleviate one's skepticism to a certain but healthy degree --- I feel that this is an important part of history and, perhaps more importantly in this case, in cases where videotape or photographic proof for the authenticity of historical artifacts is absent.

    I fear the credibility of a LOT of major historical artifacts would be greatly diminished, or even lost altogether, if one was to indiscriminately dismiss all artifacts that have their background stories based on anecdotal and/or circumstantial evidence...

    Either way, this is an interesting subject for sure! Will be interesting to follow this one to see if there's any headway made with regards to the story or valuation etc...

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