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Hello everyone.
I started the eBay return process for this ring, but the seller still insists it is original.
He sent me photos of his own original West Wall ring to compare to mine.
It does look the same as mine with similar dots on the back plate.
Is the "visible seam" that he is referring to, that vertical protruding line in the top section on the back plate, found in the last photos I posted ?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Unfortunately, I can't upload his photos because the forum tells me that, they have the wrong file extension name, and I have no idea how to change it.
MrFrank
"Hi Frank,"
"Hello Frank, It's good original ring from my collection. I have the same ring, only in slightly better condition. Here photos of mine. As you can see my ring has the same visible seam on the back as your. That means that ring is not casted, but die struck."
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Hi Frank,.
I think that he wants to convince you to change your mind, because he simply just wants to keep your money. And dealers will always claiming things like that. He probably have tens of that ring in stock for sale. His ring looks like fake as well as that one which he has sold to you, but its hard to tell anything from such a blurry and bad pictures he has sent. I would say that everything is quite obvious here and you should really return that ring and get your money back. He must return you the money.
Best regards,
Franko
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Die struck rings have a seam at the rear, cast rings do not unless they are re-sized.
Ralph.
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I agree Ralph, that should be the case. But crooks could deliberately make that seam on the ring to looks more convincing, although that would make production of that copies much more complicated and expensive.
Best regards,
Franko
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Franjo Vuk
I agree Ralph, that should be the case. But crooks could deliberately make that seam on the ring to looks more convincing, although that would make production of that copies much more complicated and expensive.
Best regards,
Franko
Hi Franko.
So, even with the visible vertical seam, you still are convinced that this West Wall ring is a fake ?
Since there are apparent casting dots on the back plate, does that mean that the mould could have had a groove in it, to form this fake seam ?
Thanks for all your input so far.
MrFrank
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Hi Frank,
The ring that you have bought doesnt looks like genuine piece at all. It was made by casting and not die casting process, fake item IMO. I dont know how that seam was created though, it was probably made after casting production. Ring could be cut and than soldered, like in resizing process. I would not keep it for sure, you should get your money back.
Best regards,
Franko
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Franjo Vuk
Hi Frank,
The ring that you have bought doesnt looks like genuine piece at all. It was made by casting and not die casting process, fake item IMO. I dont know how that seam was created though, it was probably made after casting production. Ring could be cut and than soldered, like in resizing process. I would not keep it for sure, you should get your money back.
Best regards,
Franko
Thank you Franko.
I told the eBay retailer that I insisted on returning the ring, and he eventually agreed.
MrFrank
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