aviation border guard uniform

**massenez** · 04-03-2011, 10:48 AM

Hello to all,
I have just bought an officer pilotka M35 of the aviation of border guards (dark blue, raspberry pipilng with a cloth green star and an enamelled cockarde). It is too difficult to find airman's " French " dark blue tunic. I saw on books that this type of pilotka could be worn with a khaki M35 tunic. But I do not know which collar I have to look for( officer of a separate aviation unit of border guard):weep. A green collar with pipping raspberry? Gold piping? Thank you for your help.
regards

jeansebastien

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 04-03-2011 10:48 AM

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**Soljenitsyne** · 04-03-2011, 11:34 AM

http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/nkvd10.htm

**RichieC** · 04-03-2011, 09:10 PM

I believe that what you search for is one of these less the Rifles ciphers on the collars, with Air Force winged prop ciphers instead, and possibly sleeve wings affixed.

IMO, unfortunately and most likely, you will never find an AUTHENTIC one of these - and this example does not belong to me...

**SteveR** · 04-03-2011, 09:49 PM

How about a picture ?
SteveR

**RichieC** · 04-03-2011, 10:08 PM

Hi Steve,

I can see the four photos I posted. You can not?

Regards,
Richie

**massenez** · 04-03-2011, 11:19 PM

Thank you Soljenitsyne and Richie,

I know it will be very difficult to find such a collar. My doubt was to do the good choise between raspberry pipping and gold piping. Can anybody explain me the difference? Why such a difference in the border gards uniforms? I believe that border guards was included in the NKVD organisation. In this case, raspberry should be the good color for M35 piping gymnasterka.

jean-sebastien

**RichieC** · 04-04-2011, 01:10 AM

Jean-Sebastien,

Unfortunately, I am unable to answer as I do not fully understand what you have written.

Perhaps you will write in French, and Philippe, Dom, or Pierre can translate?

Regards,
Richie

**massenez** · 04-04-2011, 07:24 AM

Richie,
saddened for the translation. I will try to be more clear. I do not understand the difference between two type of border-guard's collars . Why some collars have raspberry pipping (see my pictures) and the others have golden piping (your example) ? I believed that border-guards were a part of the NKVD and that raspberry color distinguished all the units of the NKVD.

regards

jean-sebastien