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ATS Officer's Battledress Blouse, Anti-Aircraft Command

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    This ATS Battledress Blouse named to a First Lieutenant A.M. Brindle attached to an Anti-Aircraft Mixed Battery has just come into my possession.

    The style does not seem to conform either to the first or second pattern blouse. Does this mean that it had been privately tailored?

    Does the Royal Signals patch signify that this 'Ack-Ack' girl was involved with Kine-Theodolite operation?

    Thanks for looking


    Martin
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    The tag and broad arrow stamp should eliminate a privately tailored job.
    Great looking jacket!

    Oz.

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    Very nice. ATS BD was of a different pattern to the "standard" army versions though it is an early BD serge type so a first pattern. I do not know what chronology the ATS BD's followed as this one has exposed buttons which would make it a post autumn 1942 austerity version if it was army and the WD "O" mark dates its issue to 1942. Certainly not one you can compare the chronology against army versions. It is possible that an early example was privately tailored to suit the later pattern.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thanks Jerry. It seems that not a lot has been written about ATS uniforms and nothing I could find could definitely say first or second pattern. So much for 'uniform'!

    Regards


    Martin

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    Hi Martin, nice BD.

    You will find info on the forum on the ATS posted by my wife, Lez. Search posts by "Larissa"

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Quote by Ubique View Post
    The tag and broad arrow stamp should eliminate a privately tailored job Oz.
    For the benefit of those less familar with common practice in the British Army at least. Oz is correct that the markings would indicate that this is an issued rather than privately purchased item. However, there is a difference between privately purchased and privately tailored in this context; "privately purchased" would refer to a uniform manufactured by a non service ie "private" tailor from approved and authorised patterns whilst "privately tailored" would refer to an issued item which the owner has had altered or modified (often as a matter of fashion within a unit) by a tailor under private arrangement. This would be within limits tolerated by higher authority, be that the unit CO or even at formation level (see Jerry's comment re modification to match another pattern). This has always been prevalent amongst the commisioned ranks and to my knowledge from the early 70's the non-commissioned other ranks as well. The most common examples include; converting a long sleeved shirt to short sleeves, sewn-in trouser creases and the addition of internal items such as document or even truncheon pockets etc.
    Two other points of interest on this particular jacket are; the clear difference between the bath stars (rank pips) on the epaulettes indicating that the jacket was in use when the wearer was promoted from 2nd Lt to Lt (1st Lt is an Americanism and not used in the British Army certainly during the 20th century) and just added the other pip. Also the pleats pressed into the back of the jacket in the 3", 6", 9" style. There were other styles such as "box pleat" in which only two were made each running the full length from waistband to shoulder but the 3,6,9 is the most usual and is based on the way the jacket (at least early ones) were stitched together.

    In any case, a very nice and less common BD jacket. Thanks for showing.

    Regards

    Mark
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    Thank you, Mark, for your very comprehensive reply.

    Thanks for the pointer, Ade.

    I do like items that are a bit of a departure from the norm.

    Regards


    Martin

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