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    Good day Ladies & Gentlemen,
    I present for you today a small, but remarkable, grouping that I acquired in the good ol’ days of ebay (when you could still trust most things you saw!), and wonder if any of you ‘researching ferrets’ could add anything to the lovely bones of this tunic.

    Thus far, I know that:
    John Earl Ivy was born on 9th May 1923, living in the ‘U.S. at large’ (whatever that means; perhaps a travelling man?), and was a semi-skilled machinist.
    He enlisted at Evansville, Indiana, on 17th January 1943 (shortly before his 20th birthday).
    Service Number: 35722932

    As Technical Sergeant (2nd Grade), and Engineering Specialist, he served as an Aerial Gunner in the ETO. The presence of an Aerial Gunners’ wings, rather than Flight Engineer (top turret), suggests that he did not serve in this latter role. The British-made SSI might indicate that he was stationed over here (in Blighty), as a bomber crewman, though may have merely ‘passed through’ on his way to the Mediterranean Theatre.

    His medal ribbons bear witness to an incredible career; The Distinguished Flying Cross, four Air Medals, and the ETO Service Medal with two bronze stars (denoting participation in specific campaigns or outstanding personal actions).

    I would very much like to know (and record) everything I can about Sgt. Ivy’s outstanding service and gratefully welcome all and any information that you can find, particularly regarding his unit, station and service, as well as his personal actions which earned those medals (I imagine a citation exists somewhere, regarding the DFC, at least, though have been unsuccessful in locating such).

    I have been unable to identify the significance of the single, silver wire strip to his left cuff (the gold-yellow overseas service strips being officially worn on the right cuff), and wonder if anyone can explain its presence here.
    His trousers bear some heavy soiling, both mud and grease, which may suggest that these were his ‘working’ pair, rather than best. The penned-in location of the Red Cross chapter, in the knitted sweater, is now virtually washed away.
    The jacket and trousers bear some odd numeral markings (a well-worn laundry number remains in the collar, but is difficult to photograph). I am unfamiliar with the exact meaning of such numerals, with suffix, but have seen similar on other AAF items.

    I look forward to hearing anything you are able to add to Sgt. Ivy’s story...
    My sincerest thanks, as ever,
    Bob
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    Bob,

    This is a wonderful enlisted 4 pocket uniform and based on the insignia the service member opted to wear this uniform upon discharge rather than the more common 2 pocket "ike jacket". The service bar is on the correct sleeve for the time period indicating 6 months of overseas service. I am not sure when the overseas hash marks moved to the opposite sleeve but this was correct for the period.. I will have to look in my reference books to give you a solid date/time frame for when the transition happened..

    The enlistment hash mark if he would have had one would have been slanted and would indicate 3 years of service. The army good conduct ribbon would also be part of the ribbon bar indicating 3 yrs of honorable service but since that was not on this uniform and the absence of the service stripe the Soldier may not have served a complete 3 years which is quite possible. What I like is the fact that the Soldier or the tailor tucked under the bottom of the honorable discharge "ruptured duck" patch and made the patch even with the pocket. Something I have not seen before but it makes the uniform look sharp. I am curious that there is no unit patch on the right shoulder indicating former wartime service (AKA Combat patch) but again this is not uncommon. Many Soldiers just wanted to do their time in service and get out..

    The additional numbers in the pants could be laundry numbers from prior Soldiers who for a multitude of reasons turned in the clothing and at some point it was reissued. Usually the numbers would be the last 4 numbers of the Soldiers service number, and these would coincide with the dog tag numbers. The letter and number combo could be the first letter of the last name and the last 4 of the Army serial number. E-3505 for example, the name of a Soldier who had the clothing prior to Ivy and possibly he was either killed in action, missing in action or rotated stateside and did not turn in the clothing so it was again reissued.

    Bob, this would be a great research project and I would encourage you to request the records from NARA and or seek out a researcher such as Golden Arrow research who may be able to get you the information you seek on awards and other information on this brave Airman..

    If I can be of any assistance I would like to help you in obtaining these records (if they still exist after the 1972 fire)..

    Let me know what else I can do to help you.. I am at work right now but I will see what I can dig up later on in the day...

    Smitty

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    I’m still looking
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    Many thanks for your reply Smitty!

    Many thanks, indeed, for your very generous offer of help in researching Sgt. Ivy. I need all the experienced help I can get!
    I have attempted to gain research material from NARA on a few occasions in the past, but have always drawn a complete blank - on the rare occasions that I received a response at all, I got nothing more than a standardised letter quoting the ‘personal privacy act / destroyed in the fire’.
    In truth, I pretty much gave up on this route many years ago, but will, of course, be extremely grateful for any assistance you can give. Perhaps I was going about my applications all wrong!

    The thing with the odd number codes is that they do not follow the normal format (surname initial and last four, as you say), but instead have a suffix, such as, ‘-2’ or ‘-3’, and one has no initial. These seem similar to markings I have seen on various pieces of USAAF kit (such as flight/parachute bags).

    Looking forward to your follow up when you have more time!
    Many thanks again,
    Bob

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    Many thanks Marty!
    Where do you find this stuff?!

    I take it that’s his national registration card, for call-up into the services...

    Cheers,
    Bob

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    Fold3, familysearch are two of the sites I use.
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    Bob,

    Let me see what I can do with the NARA packet at my end and if this route doesn't work out we will try Geoff at Golden Arrow Research.. (See attached link)

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    Smitty

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    Bob,

    Let me see what I can do with the NARA packet at my end and if this route doesn't work out we will try Geoff at Golden Arrow Research.. (See attached link)

    Golden Arrow Research-Research a Veteran

    Smitty
    I have used Golden Arrow twice, great guy.

    Marty
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    I did check the 384th BG and your guy was not attached with them.
    I don't know if that helps.
    That is a great grouping!!

    Semper Fi
    Phil
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    Would that shoulder patch not be theater made too?

    (More of a question for Smitty, Marty and Phil as I don't know squat about US uniforms and Insignia)

    That is a great tunic!
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