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Verwundetenabzeichen Black with Envelope - real of fake?

Article about: Hi Guys, I was offered this BWB and given 3 crappy cell phone photos to review. Could those of you with much better eyes than mine make a determination of authenticity of this badge based on

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    Hi Guys,
    I was offered this BWB and given 3 crappy cell phone photos to review. Could those of you with much better eyes than mine make a determination of authenticity of this badge based on these photos alone? I do appreciate your help. Thanks, Bob

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    I was able to get the seller to send some "better" photos. Appears the badge is unmarked. Thanks for your comments. Bob

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    Hi Guys,

    Anybody care to weigh in on this BWB? Thanks, Bob

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    The catch is a little higher than some, Although some makers did affix it this way... There is also lack of definition on the sword ( Left ) .. The pin seems to worn into the badge too. That's all I can add..
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    Odd one...the hinge is wider than usual as well...and there's a flaw in the dot-pattern...Gwar's helpful input has me questioning the authenticity of this badge as well...too dubious, you'll find another one that's less questionable out there, friend...Out of caution, I recommend passing on this one...
    cheers, Glenn

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    Missing rear rivet on the helmet as well.
    I would agree with Glenn, pass on this one.
    Ralph.
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    Alright! Thank you gentlemen. I did notice the poor definition of the sword and the cross guard too. Always appreciative, Bob

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    Trying to decipher the name on the packet could go a long way in helping I.D. this badge, or maybe not! However, whatever the makers name is from what I think I can see, it doesn't ring any bells with me for any of the Vienna makers I'm familiar with, but looks O.K. I think. But I'm not a wound badge collector per se.
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    Quote by big ned View Post
    Trying to decipher the name on the packet could go a long way in helping I.D. this badge, or maybe not! However, whatever the makers name is from what I think I can see, it doesn't ring any bells with me for any of the Vienna makers I'm familiar with, but looks O.K. I think. But I'm not a wound badge collector per se.
    Well, I was trying to work out the name on the packet too and it is not one I recognise. It also bears the abbreviation GmbH (Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung or Company with Limited Liabitity) and whilst the legislation providing for this has been around since the late 19th century I am not sure it was used that much during the TR period, I certainly am not used to seeing it like this (maybe I have not been paying attention). Also for the reasons given above I do not like this badge and it is not rare. A very good example with no issues will be easy to find and will not break the bank.

    Just adding to the consensus really!

    Regards

    Mark
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    The bag is marked for "Argentor Werke" Rust & Hetzel, Vienna.

    Black Wound badge with Envelope

    A difference in hardware I notice.

    Regards
    Brett
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