Verwundetenabzeichen in gold. Real or fake? Which maker?

[johanis1860]

Hello.
A new addition in my collection.
I believe this Verwundetenabzeichen in gold without maker mark is good one.
Please,can anyone confirm this?
Please.can anyone identify the maker
Thanks,all comments are welcome.
Regards,Jannis.

[Brett]

Interesting. The badge shows the obverse characteristics of the L22 Glaser & Sohne badges. That being the double bow knot, off centred top berries & extra berries at the sword tips & grips. Compare the obverse with this link:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attac...e-img_0003.jpg

The reverse however is nothing like the L22 badges:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attac...e-img_0004.jpg

Regards
Brett

[johanis1860]

Hello Brett.
Thank you very much for your advice. You have right,the reverse look completely different.
Maybe has a replacement hook and pin or is a fake.
I hope,one with more experience can help.
I have two weeks time to send it back to the seller.
Regards,Jannis.

[johanis1860]

Hello again.
After my research in the web,I believe that this badge is made by Josef Rückert & Sohn, Gablonz with Prasidialkanzlei Nr: 92.
Please,can anyone confirm this?
I hope,one with more experience can help.
Thanks.
Best regards,Jannis.

[Brett]

It is not a 92 mate. As I mentioned previously, look at the bow & berry placement. Show me a 92 that has the same features. Have a look at this thread & compare....not even close:

Verwundetenabzeichen 1939 in Silber '92'

Regards
Brett

[johanis1860]

Hello Brett.
Sorry and thanks again, for your advice.
I have to correct myself, you are absolutely right, is not a 92.
I'm still learning.
Best regards, Jannis.

[Brumbar]

The obverse for this badge also resembles the Grossmann design.
The hardware design matches more closely to a Grossmann as well. The only oddity here for me would be the catch.
The Grossmann designs to the best of my knowledge had the round wire catch as opposed to the flat wire catch I see on this badge.
Could be Grossmann with replaced catch?
Regards
Detlef

[Brett]

A Grossmann does not have the berries at the sword tips like the OP's example. They also do not have the double bow knot:

Verwundetenabzeichen 1939 in Silber, Need help

Regards
Brett

[johanis1860]

Hello.
First, many thanks both for trying to help me.
I think the one post was Souval reproduction, obverse looks very similar.

My Verwundetenabzeichen 1939 in Gold.

Reverse ... I do not know,maybe is the Souvalklaue removed and the badge newly gilded?
One thing is certain, for me is an interesting case.
Regards,Jannis.

[Brumbar]

Brett.
I stand corrected.
To me however the hardware does not match the L22 design that I've ever seen.
Never seen an unmarked L22.

Regards
Detlef