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Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz... Real or Fake?

Article about: i really dislike knocking a BWB. there's something miserly about it.

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    Default Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz... Real or Fake?

    Asking the experts...

    I purchased this WW2 Black Wound Badge a few years ago from a trusted dealer.
    After reading some of the posts regarding fake wound badges I'm now questioning its authenticity.
    Other than missing the rear rivet, everything else appears to be OK (as far as I can tell).

    So, I put it to the experts... real or fake?

    Many Thanks!

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    Last edited by Adrian; 07-30-2012 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Title changed to use German terminology.

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    Default Re: Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz... Real or Fake?

    Original piece IMO.

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    I note an interesting 'deformed leaf' on the wreath directly to the right of the rear of the helmet brim. Perhaps this is indicative of a particular maker?

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    I've never seen a deformed leaf quite like this before. Thanks for pointing it out Glen.

    Tom

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    Default Re: Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz... Real or Fake?

    I notice this has no rivet on the back of the helmet which proves my point it doesnt mean a fake badge

    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/orders...hwartz-175724/

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Thanks Gents!

    I'm very pleased to hear that it's an original piece.

    Cheers,
    Brad

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    Any further thoughts on this one? I'm backtracking on my original thought the more I look at it. The shape of the helmet skirt at the back is giving me concern.

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    Well Adrian, I'm still on the fence. Look at the pic below. The areas highlighted are not like any of my badges.

    Tom
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    Default Re: Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz... Real or Fake?

    Hello Adrian
    If this badge was offered to me I would have to pass. The bow, the curvature of the helmet dome & the angle of the rear skirt just do
    not look right to me.

    Regards
    Brett

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    i've been looking at this one since yesterday. i don't want to come out and say i think it's a repro or i've matched it with a known fake. i don't want to say that at all.

    but i personally am not comfortable with it. StugIII makes a point that i have noticed from the beginning. in fact, to my eye, the bow of the ribbon looks odd as well... like it rises too high above the wreath on the left. the details are odd. Also, as Brett points out, the angle where the helmet dome meets the rear skirt is too acute.

    Also the pommels... those little buttons on the very end of the sword hilts... these look more pronounced here than is familiar to me. they are pretty fat.

    maybe this is a BWB known to me and my memory is just not clicking here. i'm just having trouble reconciling it.

    i will leave the "issue" of the rear helmet bolt out. i know this is controversial so i will not comment on it here.

    there are plenty of BWBs out there. this one i just don't see the reason for holding.

    maybe someone can come along and give me more confidence in it.

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