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Paramilitary * 2

Article about: Angolia lists it as unidentified. However, very interesting that the buckle he has shown belongs/belonged to Marc V and is identical to the pebbled buckle shown on this thread. I don't mean

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    Hello
    May I have Your thoughts, Whom could it be atributed to ?
    Silver one is shown at Angolia's book on page 592
    Gold one, came by a chance :)

    Thank You.
    Alex.
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    Sorry Alex, these buckles are pure fantasy items!

    Best,
    Guido

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    Guido Hello and Thanks for Your input

    roundels / motifs ?
    or "body" too ?

    Alex.

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    Good morning
    the bodies look good IMO, the motifs are "Harry Potter"...fantasy!
    Gruß Max

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    Alex, as already mentioned by Max, the boxes should be ok!

    But the roundels themselves are an absurdity. There is no real pattern known from the Third Reich.

    Best,
    Guido

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    So, fantasy motif
    What about roundels themselves ? The way to attach ? Soldering ?
    Looks not so bad.

    Alex.

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    Yes, not good. The roundels are not legit. Sorry.....

    Rob

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    This is perhaps a highly contentious buckle, although rather like Guido and Max, I think that we are looking at a fantasy item.

    Having said that, perhaps I could mention a small point.

    The overwhelming majority of these buckles have a specific design of roundel on both highly suspect and clearly fake boxes. The specific design being where the sword thrusts in a 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock position. The odd and rarely seen "variants" however has a roundel where the sword thrusts in a 2 o'clock to 8 o'clock position. In addition and toward the latter (like the ones that Alex has shown), it has a differing style of pebbling to the roundel and is seen on most convincing, period style boxes.

    A small and potentially interesting point?

    Regards,

    David
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    Hello David, as always well done. Thank You.
    It's pity, there are no way to trace where did this motif come from ?
    no way to figure out When and How it had appeared on the market / into collection ?
    and Why, there are very few of them are in circulation in spite of a very nice looking design ?

    Thank You.
    Alex.

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    What does Angolia say they are?

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