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Stahlhelmbund, Jung-Stahlhelmbund and Landsturm

Article about: David, What a great grouping of Stahlhelmbund buckles. I love the different helment shapes. Can't come close to topping yours but will post mine as time permits but soon. Regards, Bill

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    Thankyou koppel71 and Bill for adding to this thread. All in all, some quite superb and interesting buckles.

    Bill - maybe I can shed some light on what koppel71 has suggested. Perhaps I am correct in thinking that the eventually "right wing" Stahlhelmbund was and in 1934, renamed Nationalsozialistischer Deutscher Frontkämpferbund (Federation of the National Socialist Front Line Fighters). The organisation was absorbed into the SA and finally, dissolved in 1935 due to their strong pro Monarchy tendencies.

    The Stahlhelmbund was never a post 1945 "banned" organisation.

    I think and in 1951, the Stahlhelm Bund der Frontsoldaten was formed and actually, the former Field Marshal Albert Kesselring was the organisations leader up until 1960.

    The organisation continued to exist up until the 1980's.

    The point is that it has been suggested that some of the Stahlhelmbund buckles that we know and love so well (and especially the one and only pattern approved by Der Stahlhof), was produced post 1945. Not fakes and instead, not pre 1945.

    Regards,

    David

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    David,

    Thanks for the clarification. I always suspected that the more common version w/helment was being produced post-1945. As a result I never bothered w/any that had the footed catch and the sleeved prong bar, only the welded "U" catch and welded prong bar (like the one I have shown) My assumption was that these were most likely produced during the 20's/early 30's. I hope this was a good decision. It's a tough hobby now and I really feel sorry for the newcomers who enter it. Even the very knowledgeable collectors still get taken with some of the newer fakes coming out. A real shame.

    Regards,

    Bill

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    It is an odd situation here Bill and certainly when considering that both you and I like Der Stahlhelm buckles so much. I have tried to compare some of these buckles and try to find a definite "clue" to the post 1945 production buckles, however with no luck. Someone apparently and supposedly "in the know" told me that the obverse paint finish was a clue, however I do not think so.

    Without wishing to engage in verbal acrobatics, I do not think that the post 1945 examples should be regarded as fakes. Rather like a few other buckles which enjoyed an acceptable status both pre 1945 and post 1945, do you not think?

    Regards,

    David

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    Der Stahlhof strap marking. A black strap that came complete with the officially sanctioned, green painted steel Der Stahlhelm buckle.

    Regards,

    David
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    Landsturm 1924

    Regards,

    David
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    Jung Stahlhelm

    Regards,

    David
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    here are mine - enjoy ...and thanks to all of you, for showing your very nice buckles.
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    ..and more...
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