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Arisaka for review

Article about: Came across this Arisaka type 38 for sale locally, any Japanese Milsurps are very hard to come by in Canada and usually fetch a "pretty penny". This one here is a Koishikawa arsena

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    He did say the mum was ground off indicating a surrendered soldiers weapon. Maybe that individual did it himself so he didn't pick up the wrong rifle.. I know I'm reaching now..

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    Quote by MAP View Post
    wow. I'm truly surprised they call it that. Honestly
    Yeah that's a whole other thread for a different forum. I'm sure that abbreviation will devastate someone's dignity soon enough.
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    Quote by UK Cousin View Post
    He did say the mum was ground off indicating a surrendered soldiers weapon. Maybe that individual did it himself so he didn't pick up the wrong rifle.. I know I'm reaching now..
    From what i understand, Mums were ground off for other reasons besides vets picking them out of piles of turned in weapons after the surrender. When taken out of service and sold/given to other countries or schools, the Mums were ground or modified as well.
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    Quote by MAP View Post
    From what i understand, Mums were ground off for other reasons besides vets picking them out of piles of turned in weapons after the surrender. When taken out of service and sold/given to other countries or schools, the Mums were ground or modified as well.
    I did not know that! My lesson for the day. Thanks Map.
    We have met the enemy and have learned nothing more about him. I have, however, learned some things about myself. There are things men can do to one another that are sobering to the soul. It is one thing to reconcile these things with God, but another to square it with yourself. - Robert Leckie

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    The ground mum is a totally different issue - lots of back and forth on the subject. "Well at the end of the war, Mac told everyone to ground off the mums as a sign of respect" doesn't really hold up as one of the big japanese battleships that was sunk at Bikini Atoll had a huge mum on its deck - and this was well post war. Plus if he issued the order, where is the proof of it? So essay aside, the mums on Japanese rifles were ground for seemingly a wide variety of reasons.

    A couple things - this is a Arisaka type 38 not a 99, and as such never had anti aircraft sights.

    Secondly, this is most likely a school training rifle, with the buttstock number most likely being a rack number of sorts. I have one from my Grandpa that looks almost exactly like the aforementioned rifle, only it has "for training" in kanji on the buttstock.

    As to value, up to you. A rifle that may be $200 in the US may easily go for several times that in another country... look at the SVT-40.. easily a $1,000 rifle in the US. $300 in canada (apparently)

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    Quote by MAP View Post
    I'm not sure of the 6 or 9. Never seen that before. Possibly de commissioned and sent to a training school or maybe sold to another country? Hopefully others can help

    This one is in rough shape. Missing the aircraft arms on the sight as well. And would be wary if it was safe to shoot. It does have the dust cover though. Is the cover matching as well?

    I know that Arisaka's are going up in price and while not knowing the going prices in Canada, $2k is outrageous. I have 4 (38, 99, 44 and last ditch). All in great shape and didn't pay over $350 for even the best one.

    in the US, I wouldn't pay more that $200 for this. But that is just my opinion

    Michael
    I dont believe the type 38's had aircraft sights that early? and yes dust cover matches. As for availability in canada this is only the 3 arisaka ive ever seen in my several years collecting, they sedomly come up, for some reason the Canadians didnt get the same surplus as the states and so most of the cost to these is tied up in importing licenses etc.

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    Quote by MAP View Post
    Also, please note that the term "Jap" is derogatory and against forum rules. Probably just a slip up. But please edit and change to "Japanese"
    sorry i didnt realize i typed it out like that, guess i was in a hurry to finish the thread, didnt mean any offence by it and it is corrected. Thanks for the heads up

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    Quote by UK Cousin View Post
    I would guess that the "9" is actually a "6". Representing 6.550mm. The 7.7mm is easily confused. I've seen the same thing on German Luger handles so as not to confuse the 7.65 with the 9mm.
    that would make sense. Althought its odd it isnt written in japanese.

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    Quote by Phil97 View Post
    that would make sense. Althought its odd it isnt written in japanese.
    Yeah, there goes my theory.. NEXT!!
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    Quote by UK Cousin View Post
    He did say the mum was ground off indicating a surrendered soldiers weapon. Maybe that individual did it himself so he didn't pick up the wrong rifle.. I know I'm reaching now..
    this seems more likely than the IJA doing it as you would thing it would be in japanese and not germanic.

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