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An automatic rifle for the collection "one shudders"

Article about: Blooming good website that Ade! Your a bad influence, just lost half an hour in happy surfing .... I might spend the afternoon "stripping" all sorts! LOL (or at least seeing how fa

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    adrian i seem to be saying nothing to you but thanks tonight

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    My team seized about 50 of these in iraq we got the british army to run them over with a chalanger lent against a curb ended up like flet bannanas.

    We ran out of oxy/aset cutting up AK47's and Draganovs

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    Here you go Reg: My friend Baz in NZ's website has all you need to know:

    DP-27 Disassembly

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    the bolt and carrier are remonisant of the bren but with a mg34 style locking mech

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi Ian, in answer to your two previous questions: mess with a deact in anyway is an offence.

    Dummy Bren barrels are or were available.

    Cheers, Ade.
    I'm not condoning messing with a proofed Deac, but as the Law stands, its not an offence to mess with your deac. The offence is tampering with the proof stamps and in the case of the cert, copying a cert is a fraudulent offence (You could even say that photocopying your own cert for the reason of "Keeping a copy safe", is also fraud, just like photo copying money or a Tax disc).

    If you were to mess with your proofed deac, then you loose that definet defence to prosecution, and it would be down to the courts to decide if it once again became a firearm. A long and expensive wayto go I would think. Again, I would advise no one to mess with there gun, but the law is really ambiguous (all areas) and I think the Govenment use this to their benefit, thats why I think its inportant people actually understand the law as it stands.

    If anyone is really intrested, I can cut and paste the Definition of a Deactivated weapon from the Home office Guide to Police on Firearms. Its not long.

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    As always, better safe than sorry

    Cheers, Ade.

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    m3bobby yea could you do that please

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    Heres the deact def, if you get really board and can't sleep, look at this link

    http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publ...df?view=Binary


    De-activated firearms
    2.12 Section 8 of the 1988 Act provides that,
    unless it can be shown otherwise, a firearm
    which has been de-activated to a standard
    approved by the Secretary of State so that it
    is incapable of discharging any shot, bullet or
    other missile, is presumed not to be a firearm
    within the meaning of the 1968 Act and
    therefore is not subject to control if it bears
    a mark approved by the Secretary of State for
    denoting that fact. The 1988 Act requires that
    one of the two Proof Houses or some other
    person approved by the Secretary of State has
    marked the firearm and certified in writing
    (that is, provided a certificate) that it has
    been de-activated to the approved standard.
    No other person has been approved for
    this purpose.
    2.13 De-activation specifications were first
    set by the Home Office in 1989. New
    specifications came into force on 1 October
    1995 but are not retrospective. Therefore, a
    gun de-activated prior to 1 October 1995 to
    the old specifications remains de-activated for
    legal purposes.
    2.14 The 1995 specifications encompassed a
    substantially greater range of firearms design,
    and are generally more stringent than the
    preceding (1989) standards.
    2.15 The revised specifications enable
    alternative standards to be agreed on a caseby-
    case basis for the class of weapons listed
    in the Home Office publication “Firearms
    Law – Specifications for the Adaptation of
    Shot Gun Magazines and the De-activation of
    Firearms”. Any alternative standards will be
    equally stringent but will allow the weapons
    to retain some of the essential features
    required by collectors. The new specifications
    allow for agreement on alternative standards
    to be an on-going process.
    2.16 Section 8 of the 1988 Act is an
    evidential provision and does not preclude
    the possibility that a firearm which has
    been de-activated in some other manner
    may also have ceased to be a firearm within
    the meaning of the 1968 Act. For example,
    guns held by museums that were recovered
    from wrecked ships and aircraft may be
    corroded to the point that they cannot be
    fired. This should not be confused with
    wear or missing parts that can be replaced.
    The final arbiter of whether the article fulfils
    the definition of a firearm at section 57(1)
    is a Court.

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    All this talk of deacts, live firers etc, reminds me of the fun and games that I had some years ago with the "knowledgeable" people at the AIR WEAPONS club that I was in at the time.
    I had a .22 Weirauch break-barrel air rifle fitted with full sling and field telescope, they stoppedme shooting with that sight unit and said that I would either have to use the normal iron sights OR get a set of "competition sights" fitted. The MAJOR problem came when the "management" said that ALL weapons were going to be chronographed. OK so far, except when it came to putting mine over the chronograph, mine went off the scale with every pellet put through it, knocking it straight into class 1 firearms. Funny why I was asked to either leave the group or stop using my existing rifle. No prizes for guessing which way I jumped, I had the rifle for another 5 years before I gave it to my brother.

    Sorry for hijacking the thread guys.

    Regards etc

    Ian

    AKA: Jimpy

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    Thanks for the DP stripping info guys, ill have a go later! should be fun.

    M3Bobby, cheers for the de-act info also, but I wont try to strip it with an oxy torch and milling machine LOL

    Reg

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