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French 'LEBEL' 1890 Carbine

Article about: The French Berthier Model of 1890, and I hope that I get all of the Modifications correct as the French modifications on weapons can be very very confusing.. Might need some help from French

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    The French Berthier Model of 1890, and I hope that I get all of the Modifications correct as the French modifications on weapons can be very very confusing.. Might need some help from French Carbine Collectors. I'll try to post the whole series of French Carbines in the next few days. If forum members would like to see them? Here goes the first..Commonly refered as 'Lebel' Carbines.. The 1890 Berthier Carbine, 1901 Sights modified for Ball 'D' ammo commonly refered as Ball 'D' (DESALEAX) thus the (MD) after the Model desigination 1890 on the reciever (MODIFICATION DESALEAUX)...1902 safety notch was eliminated on the bolt. 1909 recoil lug added to the stock to stop breakage at the wrist, 1915 bayonet lug added, 1927 Cleaning rod was removed and the rod channel filled in on the stock, a stacking prong was added to the upper band of the carbines, 1932 The Model 1932 cartridge known as the Ball 'N' cartridge was adopted so the chambers were re cut and the reciever, barrel and rear sight base were marked with a (N)... Included in the picts are some accessories to include the rare French ersatz cloth, leather reinforced sling made from a machine gun cloth belt... I believe that because of the shortness of this carbine that many came home in GIs duffel bags.. I have even found a German single ctg. pouch with 6 of these 3 shot French clips in it, 5 were loaded and one clip was empty..enjoy BILL

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    "As long as there are brave men and warriors the halls of Valhalla will never be silent or empty"

    In memory of my father William T. Grist December 26, 1920--September 10, 2009..
    901st. Ordnance H.A.M. North Africa, Italy, Southern France....ETO
    Also in memory of my mother Jane Kidd Grist Feb. 22, 1920-- September 27, 2009... WWll War bride May 1942...

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    Johnnie
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    Great Bill! These are indeed a fascinating series of weapons that have been long ignored by the firearms community. They served in both World Wars, and countless other places. And indeed a confusing aray of modifications.
    Please post all you have,
    Cheers,
    Johnnie

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