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Interesting Belgian carbine

Article about: I came across a rather interesting Belgian flintlock carbine at Earlestown market this morning. Obviously restored - but very nicely done. The barrel is in very nice condition with the engra

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    I came across a rather interesting Belgian flintlock carbine at Earlestown market this morning. Obviously restored - but very nicely done. The barrel is in very nice condition with the engraving still showing up well. The action is nice and crisp. I would assume that this was probably made for mounted troops, and going off the engraving - possibly for an officer.

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    Author of... 'Belfast Diaries: A Gunner In Northern Ireland'... 'A Tough Nut To Crack: Andersonstown.. Voices From 9 Battery Royal Artillery In Northern Ireland'... 'An Accrington Pal: The Diaries of Pte Jack Smallshaw, September 1914 To March 1919'.

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    Nice carbine,I have an old percussion rifle which I have posted before.....Pete.
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    More likely a civilian piece-military weapons were not decorated to any degree and officers didn't use long arms-that's what troopers are for!

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    It is a short carbine - not a long-arm, and officers did use short carbines. When I was serving at Woolwich in 1969, the old Rotunda museum housed some fine examples of officer's carbines. Several of these weapons were engraved and had chequered stocks. Officers often went down the 'private purchase' route when arming themselves with weapons, and would often go for something which served as an example of their standing and wealth.
    Author of... 'Belfast Diaries: A Gunner In Northern Ireland'... 'A Tough Nut To Crack: Andersonstown.. Voices From 9 Battery Royal Artillery In Northern Ireland'... 'An Accrington Pal: The Diaries of Pte Jack Smallshaw, September 1914 To March 1919'.

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    Wouldn't even a private purchase weapon have a bayonet lug , in for a penny in for a pound . Just a question .
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    Cavalry carbines generally didn't take bayos-the cavalry had swords or lances for close combat-other types of mounted troops such as engineers or artillery would have bayo fitted weapons though as they didn't normally fight on horseback and would need to defend themselves against enemy troops. Practices in different countries and over time did vary on this as well.
    This is my Royal Irish Constabulary carbine-these were converted from British army Lee Enfield Cavalry Carbines none of which had bayos, but the paramilitary RIC wanted bayos for crowd control so the fore end was altered to fix the P1888 bayo.
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    Quote by lithgow View Post
    More likely a civilian piece-military weapons were not decorated to any degree and officers didn't use long arms-that's what troopers are for!
    Also my opinion.
    Also military weapons would bear military stamps like GP or GB or just B.
    The LG stamp seems younger then the weapon and the other marks, no expert to explain why...it is just what I see...
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    The E over LG proof mark was the sole proof-mark used by the Belgians between 1810 and 1853. After that date it became the definitive proof mark. As it is the ONLY proof mark on the weapon, I would assume that it is the 'sole' proof mark. There is nothing in the way of stamps to indicate that this gun is for military issue, it is simply a carbine with a military-size bore, and a barrel of just a fraction under 24 inches. The engraving is minimal. The gun is simply a very interesting carbine of its type, with unknown history. It might have been private purchase by a military person, I simply do not know!
    Author of... 'Belfast Diaries: A Gunner In Northern Ireland'... 'A Tough Nut To Crack: Andersonstown.. Voices From 9 Battery Royal Artillery In Northern Ireland'... 'An Accrington Pal: The Diaries of Pte Jack Smallshaw, September 1914 To March 1919'.

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    Nice looking weapon, what calibre is it Steve?...
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    Quote by Gunny Hartmann View Post
    Nice looking weapon, what calibre is it Steve?...
    It measures at just a fraction over 15mm. Probably 15.2mm cal.

    Cheers,
    Steve.
    Author of... 'Belfast Diaries: A Gunner In Northern Ireland'... 'A Tough Nut To Crack: Andersonstown.. Voices From 9 Battery Royal Artillery In Northern Ireland'... 'An Accrington Pal: The Diaries of Pte Jack Smallshaw, September 1914 To March 1919'.

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