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M1 Garand Help with Gas Cylinder

Article about: Hi guys, As many of you know, here in Jersey we are allowed to own semi-autos, so I have gone and got myself a NM M1 Garand. Its not in the condition I would ideally like, but they rarely co

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    Hi guys,

    As many of you know, here in Jersey we are allowed to own semi-autos, so I have gone and got myself a NM M1 Garand. Its not in the condition I would ideally like, but they rarely come up.

    Basically, as you can see, the gas cylinder has been sporterised and I would like to return it to a more original configuration.

    Does anyone know whether these can be ordered from the U.S legally, or whether they are possible to find in the UK/Europe? Do you think it would be worth spending the money on?

    Cheers,

    Ollie
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    It appears to have been tapped into the reciever. Short of replacing the reciever I am not sure. This could get costly. I need light, close up pictures of the reciever area that has the mount to make a clear assessment of your question.
    Thanks,
    John
    I specialize in M1 carbines and Lugers.

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    Thanks for the reply, but that is not what I am asking.
    The scope rail that has been attached to the receiver is correct. What I am asking is whether I should bother replacing the gas cylinder that has had the bayonet lug and swivel mount ground off for an apparently 'cleaner' look.
    Thanks,
    Ollie.

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    It looks like a parts gun (put together). Gas cylinders are inexpensive and easy to find. I would go through completely and make note of what is what. A restore may be more hassle than its worth as relatively correct and complete examples are still fairly abundant.

    If it is just a shooter, then do whatever you feel is necessary.

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    It looks to me like it is or was a M1C or M1D sniper rifle - or perhaps
    someone was trying to fashion one out of it - and yes, I would
    replace the part. If it is a true sniper type, you will need the
    complete cylinder with bayonet bracket to mount a flash
    hider if you wish to return it to it's former glory,
    or just make it correct.

    M1 Sniper rifles go for 2-3 times as much $$$ as regular Garands.
    Shouldn't be too hard to find a gas cylinder. 'Numrich Arms' in
    the US would be a good place to start, however you may
    find it a bit of a hassle to get parts shipped without
    going through a licenced firearms dealer.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    thanks for the advice guys!

    As I said, I am more of a shooter than a serious collector and M1's hardly ever come in to the island. This particular example happened to be a National Match, so i think it a well put together rifle, however, in the 60's/70's I believe match shooters went through a phase of trying to clean up their rifles and make them look more 'sporty'. This rifle, I do not believe, has been altered all that much, but my aim is too get it looking slightly more ww2 purely for aesthetics.
    Cheers,
    Ollie

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    Hi guys, some updated photos! can anyone tell me why there is no manufactures mark on my receiver!?

    The barrel reads: Geneseo. Il.

    Ollie

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    Its a commercial barrel by Springfield Inc, gas cylinders are easily found. I am wondering about the receiver, if it is a USGI reciver, it appears the heel was scrubbed and a new serial stamped. This would concern me.
    Pull the action from the stock, is anything stamped on the right hand side?

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    They have made commercial M1 receivers that were blank. Yours has copied a Springfield serial number from somewhere between jan '52-aug '52. Pull the receiver assembly from the stock and look for a drawing number on the right side. It has the ww 2 lock bar rear sight and a Winchester bolt.

    Here's a site for more info if you get curious USRifleCAL30M1.com
    Best
    Paul

    47th MP Co/47th Inf Div 1983-1988
    583rd Ord Co 59th Ord Bde Muenster, W Germany
    1988-1990
    Looking for P37 ammo pouch with No4 bayo frog

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    CAI made receivers with nothing on the heel but were marked on the side above the woodline
    I still say its a USGI receiver thats been scrubbed

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