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Article about: The Japanese even had a training bayonet for these rifles as well... The Training rifle and training bayonet was a cottage industry program, designed to get everyone involved in the militari

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    Not to be rude or anything but I'm sorta surprised that anybody went to any lenght to make a training version of the Arisaka rifle, It's a pretty simple design. Learn something new every day I guess.

    Mike

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    Redrover, it's a very nice piece to have, especially if it was
    simply given to you ! I think a standard, period bayonet
    fits neatly on the muzzle end, and it will make a
    wonderful display !







    Regards, Steve.

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    Hey Redrover

    A GREAT item you have there. I've got a couple of 99s and thought I knew a little about Arisaka rifles. Have never heard of the "blank only" training version, but then I'm not much of a scholar on any topic. I'm gonna have to read up on these.
    I'd say it was definitely worth finding the missing parts, even IF the numbers don't match.
    A friendly bit of advice, when you do get a bolt, remove the firing pin. You won't be the only one to ever own it and, well, a live round fired in that thing would be an extreme hazard.

    PM me if you'd like some sources for missing parts.

    Regards

    Rick

    And Blackheart, are you serious or just yankin' chains? You yanked the s#*t outta mine.

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    thanks for the information.. do any of you think buying a bolt for it would increase the value of the rifle at all? ill probably just refinish it and clean it up a bit and hang it on the wall with my growing mosin collection

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    Get a bolt. And the other missing parts. Otherwise, it's just a parts gun, of very limited value, collector or monetary. A REAL one runs in the $350-$400 range in these parts. Might be worth more, or not.

    Check out this link, for what it should look like, for real.

    http://members.shaw.ca/nambuworld/t38.htm

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    Quote by redrover44 View Post
    thanks for the information.. do any of you think buying a bolt for it would increase the value of the rifle at all? ill probably just refinish it and clean it up a bit and hang it on the wall with my growing mosin collection
    I'd say if you can find one go for it. Seeing that a blank verson is probably less often encountered it might be a bit more valuable than an actual operational rifle. I really didn't know they had a training version of this rifle.
    Last edited by Pompa Mike; 05-04-2010 at 06:39 AM.

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    An interesting piece-is the barrel rifled & hollow?-it seems a lot of effort to go to for a training device-most armies use old or captured weapons for training-were these Arisakas converted from otherwise unservicable rifles or new builds? I can't think of any British equivalent that actually uses ammunition.

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    Quote by lithgow View Post
    An interesting piece-is the barrel rifled & hollow?-it seems a lot of effort to go to for a training device-most armies use old or captured weapons for training-were these Arisakas converted from otherwise unservicable rifles or new builds? I can't think of any British equivalent that actually uses ammunition.
    Lithgow, it does seem like a lot of effort, that's what's throwing me off, you would think that a standard rifle would work for training purposes. When I was in the military (not Japan) we used our standard M16 for training. I'm really surprised that they made a blank firing rifle like this.

    Mike

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    Quote by blackheart0866 View Post
    My god, can u not do a simple search on the net , or what.

    I dont mean to sound rude or anything, but so many people that dont do a simple google search on the items they post.

    I did a simple google search, and came up with at least 7 pages on that rifle......
    If you found out so much information in a short period of time why didnt you have the coerteusy and fibre to actually inform the chap what it was? It wouldnt take half the time to type "Arisaka" than your little triade!!!

    Reg

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    Hello Mike,
    Just out of curiosity I'm attaching a couple of pics of the markings on the stock of my Mosin Nagant. They seem to have a similarity with yours. Ade did give me information about the rifle ages ago and I can't find the thread at present. I wonder if any of our people can can help with a translation.
    By the way, I like your Ariska and hope you will let know how you get on with it?
    Best regards,
    navyman.
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