Relic gun

[sepulhead]

Hello guys!

I'm trying to buy this gun. I don't know which model is, the seller says that is a german gun from WWII...
If you can help I'll thank you.

Regards.

[lee edwards]

i think the MA on the grips is for Mauser

[Jan]

A nice original relic ... any info were it was found? It´s a Mauser alright!

Rgds Jan

[lee edwards]

im just searching mauser pistols and the closest i can find to it is a mauser WTP which ther are 2 models of. but its def different to those 2 models

[sepulhead]

Many thanks guys, but in a recent thread here in warrelics I've seen two similar ones that are FN Browning 1906 "Baby Browning".
Is this one also a FN Browning?

Hi Jan, the seller says that this gun was found in Dresden's suburbs.

[Kala]

I must say, that I don´t thinks this relic is Mauser Waffenverk made. Reason to that is
- The logo in sidplate is not Mauser logo. I have seen two different logos. WM - Waffrnfabrik Mauser and plain Mauser. MA or AM dosen´t refer to Mauser IMHO
- As Lee Edwards said, the frame of this relick does´t resembles any Mauser manufactured pistol.

The frame is a little odd. If that square thing is a barrel, why there is hole in it?
Makes one think it maybe a blank firing pistol or gas pistol and the hole is for metal stick to prevent it shooting bullets. Is the calibre 6.35 (.25) or something else? Is it rifled?

I think that the manufacturer for this relick could be find in Spain in Eibar region, Belgium or if it´s not a "real" pistol from germany.

I can be wrong here, as allways, but intersting piece anyway.

[HVK]

The design looks like a Walther Model 9 - except for the safety which is placed behind the grip instead of in front. I would also say it is of Belgian or Spanish manufacture. But there were several very small pistol manufacturers in Germany at that time...

If the hole in the barrel is not made for deactivation I would suggest it is a blank firing pistol and not a real gun. In the early days these were made the same way as a real gun except for some details...

[HVK]

I found it ! It is indead German .... :-) It is produced by the same who produced the Liliput pistol (Wikipedia):

The Liliput was manufactured by Waffenfabrik August Menz in Suhl, Germany from approximately 1920 to 1927. Menz also manufactured a similar .25 ACP pistol introduced in 1925 as the Model 1, and a .32 ACP pistol sold as the Beholla Pistol.

You can see a picture of a gun for sale here:

http://www.cds-ehrenreich.de/waffen/...2008/w4425.jpg

You can also see a picture of it here with a little different grip logo

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20allem...0menz%20gb.htm

So I guess that it is a quite rare gun....

[sepulhead]

wow guys, many thanks for the information.
Best regards.

[Kala]

HVK, you are right. Definetly Liliput. Very intersting. But still, the hole. What is it´s purpose? I am quite sure it´s not original.
Well, Sepulhed, If you get it, I´ll would be very interested to know if it is 4,25mm or 6,35mm.