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steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

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    Default Re: steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

    The Finnish rifle is a Carcano M38 Italian short rifle in 7.35mm-not related closely to the Dutch production Mannlicher weapons-very unlikely that the Soviets ever captured any Dutch produced weapons as they mostly used 6.5mm non German standard ammo-used locally in occupied countries like most non 7.92mm weapons because of ammo supply problems (although emergency last ditch "Homeguard" use mixed this up by the end of the war).

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    Looking at it again it appears you have placed the Dutch Mannlicher metal parts into a M38 Carcano stock-would explain some of the fit issues of the wooden stock.

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    oh boy ,, i was begining to think i was the only one to notice the fit was bad
    i worked for sreyer in vienna for 14 months and i know they would never let that out of the factory
    there QC is to hot for that
    they are perfectionists (tutonic mind)
    cheers ian
    if (tutonic) is the right word

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    It should be in 6.5x53Rmm caliber.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    as i said many posts ago ,steyr still have all the press , and machine tooling ,and gigs to make ,mp38-40 , k98 mp44 they have the coppy lath jigs for making stocks
    they could re-produce all of these ,if there was a market
    they cept everything
    they have all of there wafenampts and ss contract stamps
    there has been 3 attempts to steel the stamps ,,they are now in a bank vault
    ive seen them
    they allso have a complete record of serial numbers
    and to witch ordnance depo thoese serials went to
    and to the ss clearing houses for the ss private contract
    they were , are very thourogh
    i would go back there to work at the drop of a hat ,but im stuck with working for the us army in graf germany again
    cheers ian

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    Default Re: steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

    contrary to popular belief
    the private contract ss weapons where not up until 1941 made by concentration camp workers
    they were made by austrians ,, but under ss armourers supervision
    on these rifles and smg you will find minimum wafenamps
    they are only there becouse the parts were taken after the normal QC checks
    most parts were checked by ss armourers before they got to the normal checks
    you will never find a german proof eagel on a true ss contract weapon
    steyr proofed the ss contract rifles them selfs
    undar the barrel in front of the base plate taping pad you will find a single ss rune
    that was the proof / exceptance mark
    any double runes ,are not correct for steyr
    double runes in a diamond are definate fakes
    steyr will wilingly cross ref any serial numbers for any weapon
    they are not happy with the fakes that abound becouse it causes havock with there serial no data base
    any way sorry ive gone of track here
    but i still believe the rifle in question here does not have the correct stock fitted
    cheers ian

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    Default Re: steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

    one last thing an mp40 with a bnz code ,, with a single rune is not correct ,mp38 yes
    also no mp 44 were made for any private ss contract

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    Also HEMBRUG 1917
    Stock is different...
    http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-o...ne-6-5mm-1749/

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    Default Re: steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

    yes Bills stock is a good typical steyr fit
    gap for the sights ,yes ,but the breach and action are a tight well made fit
    yours is not ??,,bils stock ,, the fit is prfection
    the stock you have i believe is not original to the rifle
    its not at all what you would expect from steyr
    they were /are /to prcise for the fit of your stock
    cheers ian

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    Default Re: steyr-mannlicher..dutch? holland? finland? but HEMBRUG 1917...

    look at your picture no 18
    its either the wrong stock
    or you have removed wood during your refurb
    i think wrong stock
    i agree with Lithgow
    cheers ian
    i allso firmly believe (my opinion ) that an old girl like this should be proseved NEVER refurbed
    all history is gone now
    value destroyed
    cheers ian

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