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Article about: i have seen revolvers that look like this, looks belgian?? it is a 12 shot revolver. the seller says 22 shells fall to the back of the cylinder. but the bore looks to be .22 is this a 5.75 o

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    i have seen revolvers that look like this, looks belgian??

    it is a 12 shot revolver. the seller says 22 shells fall to the back of the cylinder. but the bore looks to be .22
    is this a 5.75 or 8mm lebel?
    i would like to possibly know before i make a purchase
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    The best guess, by "THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF HANDGUNS" by A.B. ZHUK, is a Henrion, Dassy & Heuschen ('HDH') .22 Velo-dog centrefire (5.5mm Velo-dog), not .22 LR rimfire, either sixteen or twelve shot. A 8mmRimmed Lebel ctg would not chamber...Definately Belgian "velo-dog".
    Regards, Thanos.
    Last edited by COLT 1911A1; 01-18-2012 at 04:36 PM.

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    yep seller describes it as a 12 round revolver. the velo dog round is about 3.5 inches .
    so most 5.5 caliber cylinders look alike. here is the sellers description_________

    Very unusual Nagant type pistol od 12 shots, with a long cylinder1 1/2" long, bore in barrel is for .22 cal, but a .22LR falls into the back of the cylinder, so the cartridge is necked down. No markings, proofs, or numbers. This is not a basement made gun but a shop model, or pattern gun , perhaps that never went into production. Gun is very sturdy, and locks up like a drum. Has walnut hand checkered wood grips, with a landyard loop in the butt. Measures about 8 3/4" long, and the 4" octagonal barrel is smooth bore, and is clean. Perhaps a trick shooters pistol from long ago. Evidence that the gun has always been in the white!

    i would very much like to buy it but i must know if it is 5.5 velo as fiocchi only makes ammo for velo.
    any more help would be great!

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    Hi,
    Very nice revolver is it from the 1880,s as i have a Webley No1 R.I.C, 1886 revolver with the same type of extraction rod with the acorn on.
    dave.

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    looks like a prop for the van helsing film

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    Not sure what the heck it is but I think colt1991a1 is right
    .I have asked the seller for A few pictures of the firing pin and netter pictures.

    I love the look of it . Hope it is a velo caliber pistol , something I can shoot.

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    That's a very stylish handgun.
    I do like the hex barrel and finger grip on the trigger guard.
    Very nice.

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    From the description, it seems the seller is trying to pump everything
    he can think of into it.

    This type of gun, and similar Belgian 'pin-fire' revolvers never had
    blued finishes, and you don't see a lot of proof marks on them.
    - He doesn't mention that it might have been refinished !

    Unusual ? Yes, but I don't think it's a prototype 'shop model'
    or 'pattern gun' that never went into production.

    Probably tactics to boost the price up somewhat.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    ya it seemed od that yhe description seemed to flip flop around, coulda been an ok snag but i just received a message from the seller that it was sold. oh well.......

    seems when i am not looking for a gun, a rarity will fall into my hands, hehe

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    i just seen one of these on the tv show sons of guns..cant recall what they said but it sure was neat!

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