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Ddr east german nva steel m56

Article about: Hi everyone, Just after some opinions on the following DDR East German NVA Steel M56 helmet that I am considering. I normally collect German WW1 & 2 helmets and Great War Militaria. I kn

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    Quote by BlackCat1982 View Post
    Curiosly I see from the website I linked that he has a 1967 dated 3 rivet Modell 1956 which also has what appears to be two year dates? So the one I isn't unique in this style.
    Hmmm, I have stared at that until my eyes hurt and the more I do the more it looks like the first digit could be a mis-stuck '0' making it 05 for May?

    Is it possible that yours could be 09 for Sept?

    I honestly can't be certain from the pics but it would answer the question.

    You have your lid in hand so you will be better placed to say. Try to take a very close up pic that can be enlarged. I sometimes rub chalk or similar over a stamp and shine a light from different angles when photographing a difficult to see mark. I have often found a badly struck '0' very hard to interpret.

    Just a thought.

    Regards

    Mark

    PS I just looked at yours again and it really is 69 so I guess we are no further forwards
    Last edited by Watchdog; 05-20-2019 at 01:38 PM. Reason: ps
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Quote by Watchdog View Post
    Hi Steve,

    I know the marks you are talking about but the helmet stamps are different;

    The top mark is the roman numeral II for a size two (there were three sizes; I, II & III) rather than 11 ie eleven for November.

    The bottom stamp is the year, in this case is 64 for 1964.

    The middle stamp should be the month which is why 69 is puzzling.

    Could this be a mis-stamp or is there another explanation. I'm afraid I have no idea but I still like this helmet as an original.

    Regards

    Mark
    Hi Mark, all I know about these helmets is that mine is a 'first pattern'. I have no reference books on DDR militaria, and what I know probably wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp. But given the way that my collection has grown over the past three years, I am now looking at arming myself with some good reference books rather than just trawling through the internet for snippets of information. I never thought that collecting DDR militaria could be so interesting, and even now, several of the items I have acquired are now difficult to find.

    Cheers,
    Steve

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    Quote by HARRY THE MOLE View Post
    Hi Mark, all I know about these helmets is that mine is a 'first pattern'. I have no reference books on DDR militaria, and what I know probably wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp. But given the way that my collection has grown over the past three years, I am now looking at arming myself with some good reference books rather than just trawling through the internet for snippets of information. I never thought that collecting DDR militaria could be so interesting, and even now, several of the items I have acquired are now difficult to find.

    Cheers,
    Steve
    I know, but perhaps we shouldn't be surprised! I remember not so many years ago that the award documents etc for TR medals were something that held no interest for most collectors and I have heard some dealers say that "you couldn't give them away" yet now look at the market!

    I am certainly no expert regarding DDR stuff and most of what I know I gleaned from "observing the beast" as it were and the odds and ends I picked up to use for training purposes. However, being an inherrent collector anyway you know how it goes? Some of those items that cost no more than a few pennies back then are highly collectable now. I am still kicking myself for not "stocking up" in Berlin on things like the Offiziersdolch which was then going for the equivalent of 20 - 30!! I don't even have one for myself despite trying for about 3-4 years now.
    I don't know of any good books of the standard we collectors are becoming used to expecting. I only have the ones from Militaerverlag der DDR that we all bought in East Berlin for the old "know your enemy" thing!
    So, if you do identify any likely volumes please give me a nod! I don't mind if they are not in English either.

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    I'll send you a PM tonight... Busy right now.

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