IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
Article about: I have two British Mark IIs acquired separately. One had a page of Hebrew newspaper stuffed in it (this was in Texas!!!) My question: Does the Israeli connection mentioned in the description
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02-02-2016, 12:30 PM
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02-02-2016, 08:26 PM
#112
Thant's a great helmet I'v just got a idf m1 helmet and it hasn't got half the markings that your has. Thanks for sharing the photos.
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02-07-2016, 08:58 PM
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02-07-2016, 10:33 PM
#114
Many thanks Steve an interesting turn of events to say the least ,I of course new these were used by France and Cambodia to mention a couple but usage by the IDF comes as a welcome surprise I was happy to have an example of one of these TAP 50 202's grace my shelves already but this does add a little something else that makes it all the more interesting. .
Regards Mark
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02-09-2016, 02:38 AM
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Nice IDF paratrooper training helmet.
I'll have a look and see of a photo of a complete setup.
In the meantime, here's a period photo
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02-17-2016, 04:44 PM
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As promised.
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02-17-2016, 06:36 PM
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magicdutchmen
As promised.
Nice photo, where is it from?
Steve.
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02-17-2016, 11:02 PM
#118
Taken at the IDF history museum in Tel Aviv.
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05-28-2016, 05:02 PM
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I know there are already a number of these helmets in the thread but I’m very pleased with my latest addition.
Classic Israeli HSAT with covered with both sack and net, held in place with two inner tube strips that have been in place for years and bonded together as the rubber has aged.
The liner is not BMB marked and I think consensus is that they are locally made. The only downer is that the original oval pad had come un stuck form the shell.
I read somewhere that these helmets were supplied from French surplus after WWII, the link below also references a French paratroop unit equipped with HSATs.
www.world-war-helmets.com/fiche.php?q=Casque-Francais-Mle-51-TAP-et-Mle-56-TAP - Translator
The person that owned the store I bought this in told me that during his service this model helmet was known as the ‘French helmet’ and it wasn’t until he started selling them that he found out they were actually a British model. I’m not convinced that all would have come from France, but it does look like at least the early deliveries were.
I’ve been on a hunt to see if it can be proved either way if the IDF M1 variant was used by paratroopers. Talking to him, he did his national service as a paratrooper in the early to mid 70s, he only ever wore the ‘French helmet’ HSAT, this is an important part of the timeline. It’s not really clear when the M1 variant was first issued, but I haven’t seen it in Six Day War (1967) photos, and it is widely used by the Yom Kippur War (1973) I think I have found a photo of credited as the War of Attrition (1968-69/70) that shows one but it is too small and dark to be sure.
So, it’s clear that the M1 was available within his period of national service and first reserve (serving in a paratroop battalion) but not used, not proof but creeping body of evidence.
Another odd fact I realized, Suez (1957) would have had Israeli, Egyptian and British paras all using the same helmet in the same conflict.
I also bought, in a moment of madness a complete set of 1975 dated IDF webbing, add that to my haul of Arab army badges, Jordanian berets and army flag, campaign ribbons and some other odds and ends, there are some benefits in working away from home.
Steve.
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05-28-2016, 05:53 PM
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