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IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

Article about: I have two British Mark IIs acquired separately. One had a page of Hebrew newspaper stuffed in it (this was in Texas!!!) My question: Does the Israeli connection mentioned in the description

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    Quote by James C View Post
    Might as well add my Israeli M1 to the thread ,the chinstrap looks to have been fitted incorrectly but shows signs it's been like that a long time Attachment 1323242Attachment 1323243Attachment 1323241
    Nice James. Is it a m1 conversion or an Israeli made example?
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thanks Jerry ,the shell has no markings as far as i can tell so i reckon Israeli made and the Tama liner nape strap shows a mid 1980's ink stamp
    Regards James

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    Quote by James C View Post
    Thanks Jerry ,the shell has no markings as far as i can tell so i reckon Israeli made and the Tama liner nape strap shows a mid 1980's ink stamp
    James, my Israeli made example is stamped on the shell and on the liner
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    One more for the pile.

    At the back end of last year I saw this photo of an IDF soldier, in Jerusalem at Six Day War wearing a French M51 liner. It got me thinking that I had never seen an M51 that hadn’t had the Israeli made liner fitted (shown in post #4, #8 and #23)

    IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

    Since then I’ve been casually searching M51s eBay and to my pleasant surprise, this one came last week.
    Aside from having no chinstraps it is factory finish. There is a name in Hebrew but the real identifier is the yellow letter ‘P’ in Hebrew stamped in both shell and liner.
    I have no idea what this stands for but I’ve only ever seen it on M51s, it appears to be present on all shells that have the original paint inside. You can see in in post #4 and#23 but #8 has been repainted.

    IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

    IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

    IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

    IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982

    The photo incidentally shows a different chinstrap but no additional rivets for mounting – another variant to hunt down…..

    Steve

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    Lovely example Jerry and great to see the IDF stamp in such great detail ,mine is certainly devoid of such a stamping in this area ,Steve the French M51 is such a nice find ,i have a similar example that i feel could well be Israeli issue but has no visible Hebrew stamp present but on other forum venues it has been hinted it could be Israeli Used ,i did pick up a very nice used Mitznefet which i was very pleased to findIDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
    Regards James

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    Quote by James C View Post
    Steve the French M51 is such a nice find ,i have a similar example that i feel could well be Israeli issue but has no visible Hebrew stamp present but on other forum venues it has been hinted it could be Israeli Used
    Hi James, can you add the link to the other forum review, I would be interested to understand the reason for considering it Israeli used, I'm not passing judgement, as my collection moves increasingly Arab / Israeli focused I'm trying to pick up information wherever I can.
    No mitznefet for me yet, I'm trying not to open that door to another area and more variants that I 'have' to have.
    Thanks
    Steve.

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    Hi Steve I'll Pm You to explain in greater detail about the other venue,i know Saudi Arabia also used the M51 so another possibility of this one's use and might well explain it's patina wear from extreme high temperatures ,there are additional ink stampings on the chinstrap which might give more clues or maybe just the original french stampings I'm not really certainIDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982IDF ISRAELI helmets arab israeli wars, 1967 - 1982
    Regards James

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    Thanks James, I spotted the stamp on the strap yesterday, the diamond I think is a the Frank manufacturers stamp (all be it on a different manufactures shell), the two round stamps do look very similar to the IDF stamp.
    Steve.

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