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Swedish Army Despatch Raider helmet

Article about: Hello everyone, I knew the existence of this helmet model of Swedish Army, but I had not ever seen a real example, at last I have found an example in excellent condition and with an attracti

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    Hello everyone,
    I knew the existence of this helmet model of Swedish Army, but I had not ever seen a real example, at last I have found an example in excellent condition and with an attractive patina which will add to my collection.
    It was made nationwide in plastic fiber and I believe that replaced the previous British made models.
    I share it with you why I think it's interesting for this kind collectors.

    Cheers
    Roberto

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    Very nice helmet!
    Sweden produced (and produces) some quality helmets.
    The craftsmanship is superb and so is the resources used in the production.

    But I am not aware that the Swedish army uses British lids?
    Where did you learn this? I have never encountered a British helmet in Swedish colours?
    Πόλεμος πάντων μεν πατήρ εστί, πάντων δε βασιλεύς.

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    Quote by 37Webbing View Post
    Very nice helmet!
    Sweden produced (and produces) some quality helmets.
    The craftsmanship is superb and so is the resources used in the production.

    But I am not aware that the Swedish army uses British lids?
    Where did you learn this? I have never encountered a British helmet in Swedish colours?
    Thanks for your comment, 37Webbing,
    this information is reported on a note Italian publication:
    https://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=...act=mrc&uact=8

    according to which the "British Cromwell Helmet Protective Headgear" was used by the Swedish Army Despatch Rider in the 40s, and is also presented a photo of this helmet on which the Swedish decals are visible.
    I also consider that I am not aware that there are previous patterns Swedish DR to the model as mine, so I considered it a credible argument, but still is my opinion and I'm not sure.

    Cheers
    Roberto

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    Quote by OldSteel View Post
    Thanks for your comment, 37Webbing,
    this information is reported on a note Italian publication:
    https://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=...act=mrc&uact=8

    according to which the "British Cromwell Helmet Protective Headgear" was used by the Swedish Army Despatch Rider in the 40s, and is also presented a photo of this helmet on which the Swedish decals are visible.
    I also consider that I am not aware that there are previous patterns Swedish DR to the model as mine, so I considered it a credible argument, but still is my opinion and I'm not sure.

    Cheers
    Roberto
    Roberto,

    Very fascinating, thank you
    It is a credible argument, but I will have to check with the Swedish army museum (Armemuseum) about this.
    It is not at all unbelievable - the Swedish army sometimes used foreign equipment.
    But I was under the notion that helmets always were produced in Sweden.

    However, a single photo does not prove anything I am afraid.
    The Swedish armed forces "laboratories" (Arméintendenturförvaltningen) - field tested large quantities of foreign equipment.
    Incorporating certain features into their own home-grown equipment.
    A lot of photographic "evidence" (used in a lot of otherwise good books) are from such trials.

    Nothing is really proven until the official documentation is found, but that takes years and a knowledge of Swedish.
    Πόλεμος πάντων μεν πατήρ εστί, πάντων δε βασιλεύς.

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    Roberto,

    I've got some news for you (and anyone interested in Swedish dispatch rider helmets.)
    There are several patterns, but not one of them are official patterns, until 1958.
    I believe your helmet is the 1958 pattern - the only post war pattern officially adopted.

    Below is only the post war patterns.
    Copyright notice:
    All photos are provided by the Swedish Armed Forces museum in Stockholm (Armemuseum) and the Army museum in Boden.


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    1): Hjälm M/1948. (Hjälm m/1948 för MC-ordonnans, Försöksmodell)
    Helmet model 1948, for dispatch riders, trial model.
    Made by: Cromwell Headwear (UK).
    Made by: Svemo (S).

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    2): Hjälm M/1950 (Hjälm m/1950 för MC-ordonnans, Försöksmodell)
    Helmet model 1950, for dispatch riders, trial model.
    Made by: ??

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    3): Hjälm M/1953 (Hjälm m/1953 för MC-ordonnans, Försöksmodell)
    Helmet model 1953, for dispatch riders, trial model. Made of cardboard.
    Made by: Cromwell Headwear.

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    4): Hjälm M/1955 (Hjälm m/1955 för MC-ordonnans, Försöksmodell)
    Helmet model 1955, for dispatch riders, trial model.
    Made by: ??

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    5): Hjälm M/1956 (Hjälm m/1956 för MC-ordonnans, Försöksmodell)
    Helmet model 1956, for dispatch riders, trial model.
    Made by: ??

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    ADOPTED PATTERN:

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    6): Hjälm M/1958 (Hjälm m/1958 för MC-ordonnans)
    Helmet model 1958, for dispatch riders.
    Made by: Randfabriken Cimbria


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    Other "pattern":

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    7): Hjälm för fallskärmsjägare och MC-ordonnans, M/19??
    Helmet model 19??*, for paratroopers and dispatch riders.
    Made by??

    * The helmet was introduced into the Armemuseum collection in 1958, and I believe it is safe to assume it was made pre-1958.
    Last edited by 37Webbing; 04-19-2016 at 08:27 PM. Reason: Spelling and related issues.
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    Very nice work, 37Webbing
    these are great and detailed information that help solve many doubts and analyze this interesting topic, I agree with you: my example is a M1958, but I must say that the previous models are extremely interesting!
    I thank you very much

    Roberto

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    Quote by OldSteel View Post
    Very nice work, 37Webbing
    these are great and detailed information that help solve many doubts and analyze this interesting topic, I agree with you: my example is a M1958, but I must say that the previous models are extremely interesting!
    I thank you very much

    Roberto
    No need to thank me
    If the little I can share is of help to anyone, it is well worth the effort.
    Πόλεμος πάντων μεν πατήρ εστί, πάντων δε βασιλεύς.

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    Hi Guys,

    Got this Dispatch riders helmet with british maker marks and swedish decals Hope you like it!

    Best
    Alex





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    A nice classic British D.R. 1944 with rough brown paint, but very nice to look with Swedish decals.

    Regards

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    Quote by AlexS View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Got this Dispatch riders helmet with british maker marks and swedish decals Hope you like it!

    Best
    Alex
    Very nice Alex!
    Thanks for sharing. It is nice to see not all of them have had their decals removed in the name of re-enactment.

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