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Article about: I wasn't sure where to put this one to be honest. Its not yet in my possession - I'm still negotiating. Being a former gunner, I found this model quite interesting. Although I am only workin

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    Definitely designed to fire something as it has a breech block and open barrel. Make sure that breech is dogged down before you fire it. Years ago i was firing a homemade cannon using a Hilti gun blank and the breech was not in place. Ended up with a whole bunch of shrapnel in my thumb from the brass casing. After 2 days of agony and a big bottle of scotch i finally surrendered and headed to the hospital. They had to open the thumb to the bone and remove some wicked chucks of brass from the bone. Have fun but be careful !!!!
    Steve

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    This looks to be what was called a "parlor cannon", they were popular toys at the turn of the 19th/20th century. They would take a light charged blank cartridge or a percussion cap and fire a BB caliber projectile.

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    Most definitely not a Calcium carbide/ Bangsite cannon. I had one and you need a water chamber to turn the carbide to acetylene. I understand the bore is 8mm but what is the chamber/breech diameter??? Any Markings? It seems to have been a well built piece.
    It is a very interesting item and would love to put it on the mantel
    Semper Fi
    Phil

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    Doesn't appear to be an actual miniature model of any existing gun, but perhaps is a Ceremonial type of a little signal gun for special events? Chances are slim of finding the cartridges for it anymore-they likely don't even make them at this date, but definitely a very well made little gun and for sure worth considering picking up.
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    This is the sort of thing I have seen being used to start yacht races. I am not saying it is but its an option as to its original use.
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    Great piece Steve i hope you get it, can't help thinking that the wheels look like they are from one of the old Mamod model traction engines!...
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    i know they used small cannons on old ships to make noise in the fog, maybe it is related to that.
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    Quote by Gunny Hartmann View Post
    Great piece Steve i hope you get it, can't help thinking that the wheels look like they are from one of the old Mamod model traction engines!...
    Hi Gunny,

    The wheels are of the same type used by 'Britains' on their model of the WW1 18 inch heavy howitzer. On the Britains model the diameter of the wheels is two inches, on this model it is four inches. The Mamod steam engines use a different design - although the wheels are certainly of a design used on steam traction engines. The same type were also used on guns used during WW1 and can be seen in period photographs, and quite often on naval guns converted to field use. The French Creusot cannon was of a similar design to this. Not all field guns used during WW1 had recoil buffer systems, many were of late 19th century vintage and were not much of an improvement on the old muzzle-loaders.

    Hopefully the gun should arrive today, and then I will be able to examine it in closer detail. The seller tells me that the wheels are not cast - but made up from parts. The gun obviously isn't meant to be an 'exact' model of any particular gun, but rather a 'representative' model of a field piece of the late 19th-early 20th century. It bears the characteristics of several designs of gun, one of which is a Krupp design used by the Boers.

    I strongly suspect that it is one of two things, either a factory-made piece - or perhaps an 'apprentice' piece. One thing is for sure, it would have taken the use of specialist tools and machinery to manufacture it.

    See attached images of my example of the Britains model

    Cheers,
    Steve.


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    It looks to be the sort of piece one would find in an officers' or Sgts' mess as a ceremonial 'starter gun' piece-could be made by REME or similar corps troops-would think it would be chambered for an issue type ammo like .303 or .455 blanks if British-very little OH&S in the good old days!

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    Gun arrived an hour ago. The chamber appears to have (in recent years) been lined with a piece of brass tube - I would think to reduce the bore. A few pictures of it next to one of my other artillery pieces.

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