Eisernes Kreuz 1 Klasse, unknown maker

[Wilko]

I wonder if anyone can help me to identify one of my boxed EK1's. I have four Eisernes Kreuz 1 Klasse in my collection, two of which I know the makers of thanks to clear makers marks stamped on them.

The other two are unmarked or unknown.

The unmarked one I have posted some pictures of here for help if at all possible by collectors much more expert than I am at this stage. I am slowly building my knowledge of this absorbing hobby and have joined War Relics Forum to help learn much more.

The fourth one in my collection is a 1914 EK1 marked with what looks like a Y on the pin. As far as I've been able to research this is an unknown maker.

Wilko

[rbminis]

I believe this one is an early Deumer.
Ralph.

[Wilko]

Thanks Ralph, I realise that a couple of the pictures needed to be rotated before I posted them. I will try and get them the right way around next time. Once agan thanks.
Wilko

[rbminis]

Thanks Ralph, I realise that a couple of the pictures needed to be rotated before I posted them. I will try and get them the right way around next time. Once agan thanks.
Wilko

If not, I'll do it when I get home today.
Ralph.

[Nick Hessens]

It's a Wiedmann.

Regards,
Nick

[rbminis]

It's a Wiedmann.

Regards,
Nick

Thanks Nick!
I guess it is only the WW I EK I's that bear this hinge set up that are deemed to be from Deumer?
Ralph.

[Wilko]

Thanks Nick
Really appreciate the help
Wilko

[Eisernes Kreuz 2]

yes This is a Wiedmann type and not Deumer